Authentic Conversations on Self-Expression

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Speaker 1: Daddy, why don't you podcast anymore?

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Speaker 2: I was doing it all for the wrong reasons.

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Speaker 2: If I want to get back into it, I want to

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Speaker 2: get back into it for the right reasons, Not

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Speaker 2: just for the reason of having people's

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Speaker 2: attention, attention, attention, because

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Speaker 2: that's not it.

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Speaker 2: If you do it because you love it, and if

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Speaker 2: you love it, just go for it.

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Speaker 2: And that's where we are now and I think I'm

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Speaker 2: in a really better place as a creator, as a

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Speaker 2: podcaster and as a creator, as a podcaster

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Speaker 2: and as uh, in a person more than anything

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Speaker 2: else.

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Speaker 2: Just start it already.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, god, so mean he's back.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the walk the Line

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Speaker 2: Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Real stories of real people.

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Speaker 2: Good to see you again, mike.

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Speaker 2: How's things with yourself?

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Speaker 1: Good, I think right, Like, I feel like

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Speaker 1: everything is always chaotic, but good

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Speaker 1: overall.

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Speaker 2: It's mental, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: It's mental.

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Speaker 2: You're like this is the kind of revamp of

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Speaker 2: the podcast sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: So this is like um, I took, about god,

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Speaker 2: nearly a year off of this just because life,

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Speaker 2: life gets in the way, and I've always been

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Speaker 2: wanting to do it.

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Speaker 2: So I says now I'm gonna get back into it.

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Speaker 2: So, um, yeah, sorry for everyone's

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Speaker 2: listening, if you've missed me, I apologize.

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Speaker 2: We're back and back with a bang.

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Speaker 2: We've got mate joy on us and, uh, one of

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Speaker 2: our most popular guests from the previous

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Speaker 2: episodes, and I had to get you back on mate,

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Speaker 2: because the storytelling extraordinaire, is,

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Speaker 2: uh, is always good to have on and it's good

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Speaker 2: fun to you.

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Speaker 2: So how's what about you, based at the

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Speaker 2: minute, still in New York, is it Boston?

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Speaker 2: I'm in Boston.

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Speaker 2: Oh, sure you're in Boston.

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Speaker 2: That just shows you how rubbish my

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Speaker 2: geography is.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember a thing about our

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Speaker 1: interview.

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest, it was two years?

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Speaker 2: How long ago was that?

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Speaker 2: Four or five years ago?

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Speaker 2: Wow, have I been doing this for that long?

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Speaker 2: Can't believe it.

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Speaker 2: Can't believe it.

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Speaker 2: I could be called a veteran in podcasting

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 2: I should be doing this full time by now,

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Speaker 2: but I'm such a fucking lazy bastard I

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Speaker 2: haven't done it yet.

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Speaker 2: That's the fucking sole reason.

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Speaker 2: The sole reason.

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Speaker 2: But I tell you what you mentioned it's a

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Speaker 2: bit crazy over the US right now, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: What's it like over there with all the

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Speaker 2: craziness going on?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like every I try to not talk

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Speaker 1: about it, like when I'm out with friends,

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Speaker 1: because I feel like people always want to

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Speaker 1: bring it up and I'm just kind of like you

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Speaker 1: know I'm chilling.

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Speaker 1: I'm just kind of like you know I'm chilling,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to hang out and have some fun.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's been pretty crazy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, a lot of people I know's jobs have

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Speaker 1: Like it's just been a lot.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: To be fair, I think it's the whole world.

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Speaker 2: It's just gone to shit right now.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know you've got a yin and yang

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Speaker 2: balances itself out.

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Speaker 2: I love it, but we don't want to talk about

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Speaker 2: the politics stuff anyway, because it's so

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Speaker 2: boring.

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Speaker 2: It's so boring, but wait, we've not spoken

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Speaker 2: for about, I say, four or five years, but

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Speaker 2: what you've been doing for the past how

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Speaker 2: many years you've been keeping yourself out

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Speaker 2: of trouble?

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Speaker 1: oh, geez, not very well, keeping myself in

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Speaker 1: lots of trouble.

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Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, you know, I thought about

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Speaker 1: like, oh, he's probably going to ask me

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Speaker 1: what I've been up to and, honestly, I've

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Speaker 1: been dissolving.

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Speaker 1: So I've got this metaphor that I really

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Speaker 1: like where, you know, life just gives you a

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Speaker 1: bunch of shit.

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Speaker 1: Right, like you've just like got shit and I

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Speaker 1: see that as ingredients.

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Speaker 1: You know, you've got these carrots.

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Speaker 1: You know, like, what the fuck do I do with

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Speaker 1: these carrots?

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Speaker 1: And you look at them.

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Speaker 1: You don't know what to do with them.

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Speaker 1: So you look around.

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Speaker 1: You're like who else has got carrots?

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Speaker 1: What are they doing with their carrots?

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Speaker 1: And I'm really focused on my carrots and

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Speaker 1: I'm, you know, roasting them.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing whatever the fuck.

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Speaker 1: I throw it into a pot and I forget about my

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Speaker 1: carrots.

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Speaker 1: And then I go over to my onions.

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Speaker 1: I I'm looking out trying to figure this out

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Speaker 1: and I throw them into a pot and eventually

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Speaker 1: I figure out that I've got to nourish

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Speaker 1: myself.

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Speaker 1: I got to put water in this pot and I

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Speaker 1: stopped putting water in the pot, which is

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Speaker 1: what I've been doing.

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Speaker 1: And here's the real trick which I'm

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Speaker 1: terrible at I've got all these ingredients.

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Speaker 1: I forgot I even put them in the pot.

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Speaker 1: I finally got water and now I got to turn

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Speaker 1: all dissolve into itself.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I feel like I've been doing,

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Speaker 1: at least this last year is I've just been

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Speaker 1: dissolving.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if the video is going

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Speaker 1: to be on here, but I've got a middle part.

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Speaker 1: I've got a flannel shirt on.

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Speaker 1: I've got a T-shirt that says show me your

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Speaker 1: tits, and it's a bunch of birds.

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Speaker 2: I feel like every version of me that has

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Speaker 2: ever existed is just dissolving into one,

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Speaker 2: and that's what I'm up to right now.

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Speaker 2: I tell you what.

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Speaker 2: That's probably the best metaphor for a

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Speaker 2: current situation I've ever heard in my

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Speaker 2: entire life.

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Speaker 2: That's brilliant.

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Speaker 2: I think it's the the best way to describe

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Speaker 2: it.

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Speaker 2: It's what would you?

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Speaker 2: Why would you say you've been dissolving,

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Speaker 2: is it just I don't know?

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Speaker 2: What would you say?

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Speaker 2: The reason behind?

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Speaker 1: it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I've got a story.

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Speaker 1: I think I talked about this on the podcast,

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Speaker 1: but, um, so, uh, I'm in a relationship, I'm

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Speaker 1: married, and that relationship is the

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Speaker 1: subject of a musical, which is a very

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Speaker 1: strange thing, I know.

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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, did I not tell you this?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was a musical based on it.

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Speaker 1: Um, the very short story for everyone, and

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Speaker 1: the backstory is um, I had never been with

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Speaker 1: a man.

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Speaker 1: I got sick, me and my friend, one of my

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Speaker 1: buddies from college.

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Speaker 1: He took care of me.

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Speaker 1: We got together and so I wrote about it.

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Speaker 1: I thought, you know, it's easier for me to

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Speaker 1: write about it and have people talk shit

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Speaker 1: And so I wrote about it.

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Speaker 1: And the next morning, 100,000 people had

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Speaker 1: shared this post and so it went viral.

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Speaker 1: You know, some like Yahoo News and

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Speaker 1: Huffington Post wanted to talk to me, and

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Speaker 1: then I kind of forgot about this thing.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a big deal.

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Speaker 1: And about six months later, maybe, two kids

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Speaker 1: reached out to me and said can we write a

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Speaker 1: And I thought this was, you know, like a

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Speaker 1: And I said, yeah, of course, you know.

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Speaker 1: And so they came to Boston.

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Speaker 1: They're from New York.

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Speaker 1: They came to Boston and they interviewed

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Speaker 1: each of us for an hour each and they

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Speaker 1: We honestly didn't think much about it, we

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Speaker 1: then we had been in contact with them

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Speaker 1: throughout the years and during the height

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Speaker 1: of COVID they had a lot of time and they

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Speaker 1: finished this musical, and so the first

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Speaker 1: time we saw it was 2022.

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Speaker 1: We were in New York and they got into the

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Speaker 1: New York Theater Festival and we saw it.

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Speaker 1: It was phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: It was actually very, very good, very

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Speaker 1: moving, incredible music.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a musical person, but incredible.

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Speaker 1: And then they decided to raise some money

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Speaker 1: and they had a two-week run in New York in

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Speaker 1: 2023.

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Speaker 1: And our families got to come and see it and

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Speaker 1: they had like an after party.

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Speaker 1: I got to pretend I was a celebrity, Very,

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Speaker 1: very cool.

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Speaker 1: And then now they're actually in the

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Speaker 1: process of trying to put on a much bigger

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Speaker 1: run, and so I legally can't give many

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Speaker 1: details about that, but it is moving and so,

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Speaker 1: anyway, why am I dissolving that 2023 run?

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Speaker 1: I went to it, I saw it.

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Speaker 1: It was pretty vulnerable.

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Speaker 1: You know there's a lot of things I mean,

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Speaker 1: they've changed a lot, but still felt

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that have changed a

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Speaker 1: lot, but still felt vulnerable.

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Speaker 1: I got home and, um, we're.

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Speaker 1: You know, I was kind of felt like I had to

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Speaker 1: go to the bathroom at the airport and I

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Speaker 1: thought, you know, I'm fine, let me get an

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Speaker 1: Uber.

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Speaker 1: I get an Uber and all of a sudden I'm like,

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Speaker 1: holy shit, I'm going to shit my pants.

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Speaker 1: And so now I'm freaking out because I'm

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Speaker 1: going to shit my pants and I'm stuck in

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Speaker 1: traffic and you know, I only live 15

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Speaker 1: I'm like well, right, and that's why, you

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Speaker 2: That makes sense, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: Why?

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Speaker 2: Why think about all that sort of stuff?

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Speaker 2: Just let it go, let it loosen, do what you

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Speaker 2: do it.

470
00:15:57,084 --> 00:15:58,588
Speaker 2: A lot of people in this world, I think, are

471
00:15:58,648 --> 00:16:01,615
Speaker 2: really concerned about what other people

472
00:16:01,755 --> 00:16:03,901
Speaker 2: think you know and what other people have

473
00:16:03,921 --> 00:16:04,482
Speaker 2: got to say.

474
00:16:04,503 --> 00:16:06,067
Speaker 2: Especially, we're in this sort of like kind

475
00:16:06,107 --> 00:16:07,458
Speaker 2: of social media world.

476
00:16:07,498 --> 00:16:10,224
Speaker 2: Now, you know and you look at it, it's all

477
00:16:10,244 --> 00:16:11,768
Speaker 2: fucking fake at the end of the day.

478
00:16:11,808 --> 00:16:13,399
Speaker 2: You know all these people sitting there

479
00:16:13,439 --> 00:16:15,104
Speaker 2: posing and going I'm having such a great

480
00:16:15,144 --> 00:16:16,596
Speaker 2: day little do they know.

481
00:16:16,636 --> 00:16:18,301
Speaker 2: But when they switch that camera off,

482
00:16:18,321 --> 00:16:20,246
Speaker 2: they're going back home and living in their

483
00:16:20,295 --> 00:16:21,738
Speaker 2: fucking one bedroom apartment.

484
00:16:22,119 --> 00:16:23,583
Speaker 2: It's just completely fake.

485
00:16:23,603 --> 00:16:24,585
Speaker 2: So you don't know.

486
00:16:24,786 --> 00:16:26,196
Speaker 2: I always take these sort of things with a

487
00:16:26,216 --> 00:16:26,818
Speaker 2: pinch of salt.

488
00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,446
Speaker 2: On all fairness, I think, um, not to the

489
00:16:30,486 --> 00:16:30,767
Speaker 2: extreme.

490
00:16:30,787 --> 00:16:32,518
Speaker 2: They obviously you went to went through

491
00:16:32,558 --> 00:16:34,141
Speaker 2: something similar previously as well, you

492
00:16:34,161 --> 00:16:36,145
Speaker 2: know, and it's just getting to that stage.

493
00:16:36,446 --> 00:16:38,550
Speaker 2: It's that sort of like epiphany moment, you

494
00:16:38,570 --> 00:16:40,374
Speaker 2: know, and it's it comes out of nowhere,

495
00:16:40,414 --> 00:16:42,538
Speaker 2: it's just a penny drops and all of a sudden

496
00:16:42,559 --> 00:16:42,919
Speaker 2: you're going.

497
00:16:42,959 --> 00:16:43,601
Speaker 2: What am I doing?

498
00:16:43,781 --> 00:16:44,643
Speaker 2: Why am I doing this?

499
00:16:45,285 --> 00:16:47,178
Speaker 2: What is the point of being all this?

500
00:16:47,198 --> 00:16:49,128
Speaker 2: You know, I think I started it when I first

501
00:16:49,148 --> 00:16:51,717
Speaker 2: started the podcast, to be honest, and, um,

502
00:16:52,499 --> 00:16:53,541
Speaker 2: I was like getting a little bit more

503
00:16:53,581 --> 00:16:54,062
Speaker 2: attention.

504
00:16:55,044 --> 00:16:57,628
Speaker 2: Uh, people had to look great and I have to

505
00:16:57,689 --> 00:16:59,358
Speaker 2: show off to my friends and make sure that,

506
00:16:59,378 --> 00:17:01,964
Speaker 2: oh, what I'm doing is, uh, is really

507
00:17:01,984 --> 00:17:02,485
Speaker 2: successful.

508
00:17:02,526 --> 00:17:03,997
Speaker 2: Look at me, it's not just something to

509
00:17:04,037 --> 00:17:04,659
Speaker 2: laugh about.

510
00:17:05,161 --> 00:17:07,850
Speaker 2: And I got really, really into it, and so

511
00:17:07,870 --> 00:17:09,756
Speaker 2: much so into it that it was actually taken

512
00:17:09,896 --> 00:17:11,700
Speaker 2: over and everything that I was doing was

513
00:17:11,841 --> 00:17:12,602
Speaker 2: based on that.

514
00:17:12,883 --> 00:17:19,116
Speaker 2: I wasn't living my normal life based on

515
00:17:19,136 --> 00:17:19,959
Speaker 2: that and wasn't living my normal life and,

516
00:17:19,979 --> 00:17:20,782
Speaker 2: uh, it when that stopped and that sort of,

517
00:17:20,802 --> 00:17:21,826
Speaker 2: I think that's probably why I took a long

518
00:17:21,866 --> 00:17:23,612
Speaker 2: time off is just to get away from it and

519
00:17:23,653 --> 00:17:25,019
Speaker 2: just take a step back and go right.

520
00:17:25,441 --> 00:17:26,848
Speaker 2: If I want to get back into, I want to get

521
00:17:26,868 --> 00:17:28,796
Speaker 2: back into it for the right reasons, not

522
00:17:28,836 --> 00:17:31,622
Speaker 2: just for the reason of having people

523
00:17:31,802 --> 00:17:33,626
Speaker 2: attention, attention, attention, because

524
00:17:33,887 --> 00:17:34,468
Speaker 2: that's not it.

525
00:17:34,648 --> 00:17:36,278
Speaker 2: It's if you do it because you love it, and

526
00:17:36,318 --> 00:17:37,501
Speaker 2: if you love it, just go for it.

527
00:17:37,802 --> 00:17:39,045
Speaker 2: And that's where we are now, and I think

528
00:17:39,105 --> 00:17:41,257
Speaker 2: I'm in a really better place as a creator,

529
00:17:41,297 --> 00:17:44,825
Speaker 2: as a podcaster and as uh, in a person more

530
00:17:44,905 --> 00:17:45,407
Speaker 2: anything else.

531
00:17:45,607 --> 00:17:49,323
Speaker 1: It's really cool yeah, I love you know.

532
00:17:49,343 --> 00:17:51,127
Speaker 1: It reminds me a lot of what I've been

533
00:17:51,167 --> 00:17:52,671
Speaker 1: working on is um.

534
00:17:53,112 --> 00:17:54,515
Speaker 1: So I went to a therapist.

535
00:17:54,736 --> 00:17:57,189
Speaker 1: It was not very good for me, but ultimately

536
00:17:57,249 --> 00:18:01,020
Speaker 1: it was good I had to really he kind of went

537
00:18:01,120 --> 00:18:03,345
Speaker 1: off on me about a few things, told me I

538
00:18:03,365 --> 00:18:05,008
Speaker 1: have a terrible relationship, lots of

539
00:18:05,028 --> 00:18:06,238
Speaker 1: things that are probably not appropriate

540
00:18:06,258 --> 00:18:07,402
Speaker 1: for a therapist, yeah, yeah.

541
00:18:07,824 --> 00:18:11,015
Speaker 1: But what was great about it is he really

542
00:18:11,075 --> 00:18:12,179
Speaker 1: made me question myself and doubt myself a

543
00:18:12,199 --> 00:18:12,259
Speaker 1: lot.

544
00:18:12,279 --> 00:18:13,042
Speaker 1: And after I broke up with him, after I

545
00:18:13,062 --> 00:18:13,864
Speaker 1: ended our relationship, I didn't realize

546
00:18:13,884 --> 00:18:14,607
Speaker 1: that this was related until recently

547
00:18:14,627 --> 00:18:15,530
Speaker 1: because this was about a myself and doubt

548
00:18:15,550 --> 00:18:15,790
Speaker 1: myself a lot.

549
00:18:15,811 --> 00:18:16,653
Speaker 1: And after I broke up with him, after I

550
00:18:16,673 --> 00:18:18,438
Speaker 1: ended our relationship, I didn't realize

551
00:18:18,458 --> 00:18:20,123
Speaker 1: that this was related until recently

552
00:18:20,143 --> 00:18:21,206
Speaker 1: because this was about a year ago.

553
00:18:21,636 --> 00:18:24,324
Speaker 1: But about a week or two after I was at a

554
00:18:24,364 --> 00:18:27,734
Speaker 1: museum, we went to this fancy event at the

555
00:18:27,754 --> 00:18:30,180
Speaker 1: Fine Arts Museum here in Boston and really

556
00:18:30,220 --> 00:18:32,586
Speaker 1: it's called Art in Bloom and so it's

557
00:18:32,646 --> 00:18:33,328
Speaker 1: actually phenomenal.

558
00:18:33,395 --> 00:18:34,177
Speaker 1: This is a good story.

559
00:18:34,778 --> 00:18:35,840
Speaker 1: The event itself is cool.

560
00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,608
Speaker 1: Like they make floral depictions of some of

561
00:18:39,628 --> 00:18:41,961
Speaker 1: the pieces so different, like garden clubs,

562
00:18:42,001 --> 00:18:44,338
Speaker 1: horticultural societies, so you can imagine

563
00:18:44,378 --> 00:18:46,144
Speaker 1: this is like the rich of the rich, like

564
00:18:46,284 --> 00:18:47,448
Speaker 1: super pretentious event.

565
00:18:47,528 --> 00:18:50,262
Speaker 1: Right, like everything is private equity

566
00:18:50,322 --> 00:18:52,107
Speaker 1: firms funding these horticultural events.

567
00:18:52,496 --> 00:18:55,323
Speaker 1: But because we pay the whopping $140 a year

568
00:18:55,403 --> 00:18:57,187
Speaker 1: to be members, which just means we go like

569
00:18:57,235 --> 00:18:59,220
Speaker 1: two or three times a year, we get invited

570
00:18:59,240 --> 00:18:59,922
Speaker 1: to this thing, right?

571
00:18:59,942 --> 00:19:02,016
Speaker 1: So we are not at this class level, but

572
00:19:02,337 --> 00:19:04,604
Speaker 1: we're there and I'm walking around and the

573
00:19:04,644 --> 00:19:07,974
Speaker 1: conversations were gold, like this one

574
00:19:08,034 --> 00:19:10,180
Speaker 1: woman looked at the floral event, turned to

575
00:19:10,220 --> 00:19:12,465
Speaker 1: her friends and said, oh, now we know what

576
00:19:12,526 --> 00:19:14,098
Speaker 1: Natalie's doing instead of tennis on

577
00:19:14,118 --> 00:19:14,761
Speaker 1: Thursdays.

578
00:19:15,022 --> 00:19:17,210
Speaker 1: And I was like, yes, guys, what I wanted to

579
00:19:17,270 --> 00:19:17,511
Speaker 1: hear.

580
00:19:17,531 --> 00:19:18,495
Speaker 1: This is amazing.

581
00:19:18,756 --> 00:19:20,944
Speaker 1: It's like watching Gossip Girl or something.

582
00:19:21,455 --> 00:19:24,262
Speaker 1: And so, anyway, I'm at this event and I see

583
00:19:24,282 --> 00:19:25,866
Speaker 1: and I am high because we all know I'm doing

584
00:19:25,886 --> 00:19:28,299
Speaker 1: a lot of cannabis now and I see this woman

585
00:19:28,599 --> 00:19:31,325
Speaker 1: who is dressed exactly like Catherine

586
00:19:31,365 --> 00:19:38,136
Speaker 1: O'Hara from Beetlejuice and she's with a

587
00:19:38,157 --> 00:19:39,060
Speaker 1: gay art dealer who is dressed exactly like

588
00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:39,963
Speaker 1: the art dealer from Beetlejuice and she's

589
00:19:39,983 --> 00:19:40,806
Speaker 1: with a gay art dealer who is dressed

590
00:19:40,826 --> 00:19:41,508
Speaker 1: exactly like the art dealer from

591
00:19:41,528 --> 00:19:41,749
Speaker 1: Beetlejuice.

592
00:19:41,769 --> 00:19:42,672
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there and I turn to Garrett

593
00:19:42,692 --> 00:19:43,575
Speaker 1: and I say are we all just full of shit?

594
00:19:43,595 --> 00:19:45,042
Speaker 1: And he's like, yeah, I'm pretty sure we are.

595
00:19:45,344 --> 00:19:47,092
Speaker 1: And I was like, no, really like are we all

596
00:19:47,152 --> 00:19:49,239
Speaker 1: just playing characters we've seen?

597
00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,304
Speaker 1: Like, is anything real?

598
00:19:51,786 --> 00:19:54,332
Speaker 1: And I'm walking and I'm like, oh, I get it

599
00:19:54,773 --> 00:19:56,057
Speaker 1: like super rich people.

600
00:19:56,177 --> 00:19:58,362
Speaker 1: They want an original, because an original

601
00:19:58,402 --> 00:20:00,587
Speaker 1: is so rare, because everything is an

602
00:20:00,627 --> 00:20:02,922
Speaker 1: imitation, everything is a copy of a copy

603
00:20:03,496 --> 00:20:05,095
Speaker 1: Like and that was a moment.

604
00:20:05,235 --> 00:20:07,160
Speaker 1: It didn't click for me at the time, but I

605
00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:07,782
Speaker 1: realized later.

606
00:20:07,922 --> 00:20:10,758
Speaker 1: My therapist, invalidating me, made me

607
00:20:10,838 --> 00:20:13,879
Speaker 1: realize I exist and like this deep part of

608
00:20:13,919 --> 00:20:16,045
Speaker 1: me from within was like, no, fuck you, I'm

609
00:20:16,065 --> 00:20:16,526
Speaker 1: going to fight.

610
00:20:28,420 --> 00:20:31,083
Speaker 1: I'm not an identity, I'm not like a box,

611
00:20:31,203 --> 00:20:32,384
Speaker 1: I'm not a character.

612
00:20:32,404 --> 00:20:35,328
Speaker 1: There's actually a Like no, all of these

613
00:20:35,348 --> 00:20:37,931
Speaker 1: versions is the same me, if there's a me

614
00:20:38,011 --> 00:20:38,691
Speaker 1: underneath there.

615
00:20:39,055 --> 00:20:40,500
Speaker 1: And yeah, I've played with parts of myself

616
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,438
Speaker 1: and I've played with characters, but I

617
00:20:42,539 --> 00:20:43,101
Speaker 1: exist.

618
00:20:43,596 --> 00:20:45,822
Speaker 1: And I know that sounds like really simple

619
00:20:46,002 --> 00:20:48,237
Speaker 1: and esoteric at the same time, but I don't

620
00:20:48,277 --> 00:20:50,545
Speaker 1: think I knew I existed until that moment

621
00:20:51,016 --> 00:20:52,542
Speaker 1: and that's been a big part of it has been

622
00:20:52,562 --> 00:21:01,863
Speaker 1: like, oh, I exist.

623
00:21:01,812 --> 00:21:02,086
Speaker 1: Big part of it has been like, oh, I exist.

624
00:21:02,035 --> 00:21:02,163
Speaker 1: So who?

625
00:21:02,111 --> 00:21:02,353
Speaker 1: Who am I trying to prove?

626
00:21:02,301 --> 00:21:03,248
Speaker 1: Like I want to wear shirts that say, uh,

627
00:21:03,196 --> 00:21:03,822
Speaker 1: show me your tits.

628
00:21:03,770 --> 00:21:04,609
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna get cancelled for this.

629
00:21:04,557 --> 00:21:05,302
Speaker 1: I think it's hilarious.

630
00:21:05,250 --> 00:21:06,112
Speaker 1: All these little birds with tits.

631
00:21:06,060 --> 00:21:06,513
Speaker 1: I want I drop it.

632
00:21:06,462 --> 00:21:07,036
Speaker 1: This is the real me.

633
00:21:06,984 --> 00:21:09,609
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to hide myself anymore.

634
00:21:09,909 --> 00:21:10,670
Speaker 2: I mean, it takes a lot.

635
00:21:10,710 --> 00:21:13,753
Speaker 2: I mean the it to get to that sort of stage

636
00:21:13,794 --> 00:21:15,696
Speaker 2: is, is is a great sort of milestone for

637
00:21:15,716 --> 00:21:17,237
Speaker 2: anyone to be fair and it's.

638
00:21:17,457 --> 00:21:18,618
Speaker 2: I tell you what you found out that, uh, to

639
00:21:18,638 --> 00:21:19,599
Speaker 2: get to that sort of stage is a great sort

640
00:21:19,619 --> 00:21:20,861
Speaker 2: of milestone for anyone to be fair.

641
00:21:20,881 --> 00:21:22,002
Speaker 2: And I tell you what you found out that to

642
00:21:22,862 --> 00:21:24,044
Speaker 2: get to that stage, you found out who you

643
00:21:24,064 --> 00:21:24,404
Speaker 2: are, who you are.

644
00:21:24,424 --> 00:21:25,625
Speaker 2: And the most funniest event ever as well,

645
00:21:25,745 --> 00:21:27,106
Speaker 2: when you get all these like pretentious

646
00:21:27,146 --> 00:21:29,168
Speaker 2: wankers in front of you, you know, and it's

647
00:21:29,208 --> 00:21:30,370
Speaker 2: like, how do the other half live?

648
00:21:30,770 --> 00:21:32,552
Speaker 2: And you're just like, is this real life?

649
00:21:36,755 --> 00:21:37,363
Speaker 2: You know, I'd be walking in there If I was

650
00:21:37,288 --> 00:21:37,389
Speaker 2: me.

651
00:21:37,315 --> 00:21:37,940
Speaker 2: I'd be walking in there going what the hell

652
00:21:37,865 --> 00:21:38,750
Speaker 2: have I just walked into some sort of like

653
00:21:38,910 --> 00:21:41,218
Speaker 2: in a Black Mirror episode and it's just all

654
00:21:41,238 --> 00:21:42,322
Speaker 2: fucked up and weird.

655
00:21:42,643 --> 00:21:43,465
Speaker 2: You're like what?

656
00:21:43,955 --> 00:21:45,937
Speaker 2: So, yeah, I think that was the wonder.

657
00:21:45,977 --> 00:21:47,764
Speaker 2: You felt like that actually came out.

658
00:21:48,135 --> 00:21:51,156
Speaker 1: It's like holy shit, it was perfect.

659
00:21:51,236 --> 00:21:53,138
Speaker 1: And like I started like I'm, you know, at

660
00:21:53,158 --> 00:21:54,819
Speaker 1: these events, whether it's you know for

661
00:21:54,859 --> 00:21:56,180
Speaker 1: this or the musical or something.

662
00:21:56,581 --> 00:21:58,302
Speaker 1: And I'm talking to people and I've realized

663
00:21:58,562 --> 00:22:00,544
Speaker 1: the more privilege you have, the more you

664
00:22:00,584 --> 00:22:02,806
Speaker 1: know wealth you have, there's even more

665
00:22:02,846 --> 00:22:04,247
Speaker 1: character, right, there's more pressure.

666
00:22:04,307 --> 00:22:05,969
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at all this and I'm like no,

667
00:22:06,389 --> 00:22:07,070
Speaker 1: everybody's real.

668
00:22:07,110 --> 00:22:09,111
Speaker 1: I'm not out here saying anybody's not real.

669
00:22:09,412 --> 00:22:11,476
Speaker 1: I look people in the eyes, I talk to them.

670
00:22:11,496 --> 00:22:11,917
Speaker 1: There's of there.

671
00:22:12,157 --> 00:22:13,940
Speaker 1: But there's all this pressure on top of it

672
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,584
Speaker 1: and I realized like I start getting curious.

673
00:22:16,624 --> 00:22:18,787
Speaker 1: Like what was your favorite snack in middle

674
00:22:18,808 --> 00:22:19,088
Speaker 1: school?

675
00:22:19,348 --> 00:22:21,097
Speaker 1: You know, what did you listen to at dances?

676
00:22:21,398 --> 00:22:23,807
Speaker 1: Because the truth is like, when we're young,

677
00:22:24,128 --> 00:22:25,835
Speaker 1: we're all more similar and then we divert

678
00:22:26,015 --> 00:22:26,697
Speaker 1: as we get older.

679
00:22:27,138 --> 00:22:30,004
Speaker 1: And so what has been so fun for me is

680
00:22:30,284 --> 00:22:32,309
Speaker 1: realizing how to like tear down the

681
00:22:32,355 --> 00:22:32,857
Speaker 1: retention.

682
00:22:33,159 --> 00:22:34,304
Speaker 1: You know, I was out with friends the other

683
00:22:34,324 --> 00:22:37,076
Speaker 1: day and like one of their friends, or

684
00:22:37,096 --> 00:22:38,780
Speaker 1: friends of a friend, is getting really into

685
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,765
Speaker 1: wine and you know like you can really go

686
00:22:40,805 --> 00:22:43,319
Speaker 1: far with that and I know nothing about wine,

687
00:22:43,419 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 1: nothing.

688
00:22:44,341 --> 00:22:47,127
Speaker 1: And so, um, he's telling me about it, my

689
00:22:47,187 --> 00:22:49,018
Speaker 1: friend like how his friends into it, and I

690
00:22:49,078 --> 00:22:51,043
Speaker 1: said, honestly, I still think like a 20

691
00:22:51,063 --> 00:22:52,736
Speaker 1: doll bottle is pretty nice and he's like no,

692
00:22:52,776 --> 00:22:53,077
Speaker 1: me too.

693
00:22:53,277 --> 00:22:55,343
Speaker 1: But like, and it was just great because it

694
00:22:55,363 --> 00:22:56,285
Speaker 1: like tore down.

695
00:22:56,305 --> 00:22:58,659
Speaker 1: I was like I have the wine palette of a 22

696
00:22:58,699 --> 00:23:00,163
Speaker 1: year old and I do not care.

697
00:23:00,503 --> 00:23:03,650
Speaker 1: That is okay for me, and so it's just been

698
00:23:03,735 --> 00:23:06,721
Speaker 1: really fun to just be honest about, like

699
00:23:07,101 --> 00:23:09,266
Speaker 1: not trying to be someone or even.

700
00:23:09,807 --> 00:23:12,257
Speaker 1: I think I was so lost in this character of

701
00:23:12,318 --> 00:23:13,781
Speaker 1: who I thought I had to be and there was

702
00:23:13,801 --> 00:23:16,147
Speaker 1: still authenticity throughout, but I felt

703
00:23:16,255 --> 00:23:18,962
Speaker 1: like this pressure or this way of being,

704
00:23:19,022 --> 00:23:20,766
Speaker 1: and now I'm just like I don't give a fuck.

705
00:23:20,806 --> 00:23:22,842
Speaker 1: If my friends don't like what I'm dressing

706
00:23:22,882 --> 00:23:24,570
Speaker 1: like, or don't like what I'm wearing or how

707
00:23:24,751 --> 00:23:26,618
Speaker 1: honest I'm being, then they're probably not

708
00:23:26,638 --> 00:23:27,701
Speaker 1: my friends and that's okay.

709
00:23:27,821 --> 00:23:29,606
Speaker 1: Like they can go do what they want, but I

710
00:23:29,915 --> 00:23:30,296
Speaker 1: want to be.

711
00:23:30,336 --> 00:23:33,202
Speaker 1: I'm so tired and my body has been sick.

712
00:23:33,442 --> 00:23:35,145
Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna get sick if I'm not me, so I

713
00:23:35,165 --> 00:23:35,807
Speaker 1: just want to be me.

714
00:23:36,508 --> 00:23:37,658
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, you don't want to get

715
00:23:37,678 --> 00:23:38,483
Speaker 2: yourself back in there.

716
00:23:38,495 --> 00:23:39,619
Speaker 2: It's obviously causing an effect to

717
00:23:39,639 --> 00:23:41,857
Speaker 2: yourself health-wise, yeah, so it's

718
00:23:41,977 --> 00:23:43,783
Speaker 2: probably the best thing that you can do.

719
00:23:43,864 --> 00:23:45,498
Speaker 2: Sort of thing have you done?

720
00:23:45,538 --> 00:23:46,696
Speaker 2: I was going to ask as well you know how

721
00:23:46,716 --> 00:23:49,103
Speaker 2: you're doing the kind of spiritualist thing

722
00:23:49,123 --> 00:23:49,986
Speaker 2: and all that sort of stuff.

723
00:23:57,975 --> 00:23:58,656
Speaker 2: Have you tried, tried to do?

724
00:23:58,676 --> 00:23:59,658
Speaker 2: That was it, the, the DMT stuff, what you

725
00:23:59,678 --> 00:24:00,940
Speaker 2: got, the I can't remember.

726
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,182
Speaker 2: It's like you go to like the retreats and

727
00:24:02,202 --> 00:24:02,863
Speaker 2: all that's it, yeah.

728
00:24:03,184 --> 00:24:04,566
Speaker 1: I haven't, you know.

729
00:24:04,686 --> 00:24:06,810
Speaker 1: I mean, I hear amazing things about it.

730
00:24:06,850 --> 00:24:08,378
Speaker 1: I know people go on retreats and stuff.

731
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,466
Speaker 1: For me I'm kind of like I want to do things

732
00:24:11,526 --> 00:24:14,643
Speaker 1: my way and so for me I think it is so fun

733
00:24:15,064 --> 00:24:17,734
Speaker 1: that, like I will be totally transparent

734
00:24:17,774 --> 00:24:18,937
Speaker 1: here because you bring that out of me.

735
00:24:19,418 --> 00:24:22,245
Speaker 1: Um, so every sunday I have a sex ritual

736
00:24:22,265 --> 00:24:22,826
Speaker 1: with my husband.

737
00:24:23,046 --> 00:24:23,688
Speaker 1: It's so fun.

738
00:24:24,476 --> 00:24:27,402
Speaker 1: We um take edibles, he does some work, I

739
00:24:27,462 --> 00:24:28,324
Speaker 1: meditate for an hour.

740
00:24:28,704 --> 00:24:31,476
Speaker 1: We then have this beautiful sex chase that

741
00:24:31,516 --> 00:24:33,100
Speaker 1: we like it's really comfortable and all

742
00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:33,441
Speaker 1: this stuff.

743
00:24:33,682 --> 00:24:35,667
Speaker 1: And we play strip poker awesome game.

744
00:24:35,675 --> 00:24:36,558
Speaker 1: Strip poker takes about hour and a half and

745
00:24:36,578 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 1: we just play and all this stuff.

746
00:24:37,460 --> 00:24:38,443
Speaker 1: And we play strip poker Awesome game of

747
00:24:38,463 --> 00:24:38,704
Speaker 1: strip poker.

748
00:24:38,724 --> 00:24:39,767
Speaker 1: It takes about an hour and a half and we

749
00:24:39,787 --> 00:24:40,770
Speaker 1: just play and we play characters, we laugh,

750
00:24:40,790 --> 00:24:41,773
Speaker 1: we have fun and we watch a movie together.

751
00:24:41,793 --> 00:24:42,395
Speaker 1: It's really wonderful.

752
00:24:43,335 --> 00:24:46,003
Speaker 1: But to set up for this, what I do is I will

753
00:24:46,023 --> 00:24:47,066
Speaker 1: send him some porn gifts.

754
00:24:57,915 --> 00:25:00,501
Speaker 1: So I'll just send him like 10 porn gifts up,

755
00:25:00,521 --> 00:25:00,963
Speaker 1: but it's kind of fun.

756
00:25:01,023 --> 00:25:02,206
Speaker 1: So, um, wednesdays with Eli, I send him 10

757
00:25:02,226 --> 00:25:03,228
Speaker 1: porn gifts and then we jump on our call and

758
00:25:03,248 --> 00:25:06,196
Speaker 1: we do our thing and like I love that I love

759
00:25:06,216 --> 00:25:06,336
Speaker 1: that.

760
00:25:06,376 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: It's just me, right, it gets to include

761
00:25:07,980 --> 00:25:10,206
Speaker 1: this like raunchiness and this playfulness,

762
00:25:10,507 --> 00:25:12,519
Speaker 1: and it's just me in my bed and I put on an

763
00:25:12,719 --> 00:25:14,883
Speaker 1: eye mask, so I'm'm like in a cave right,

764
00:25:14,903 --> 00:25:17,348
Speaker 1: like I'm under covers in an eye mask seven

765
00:25:17,488 --> 00:25:18,209
Speaker 1: hours straight.

766
00:25:18,329 --> 00:25:20,951
Speaker 1: I usually get up like five hours into it to

767
00:25:20,991 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: walk my dogs and pee, but otherwise I am

768
00:25:23,701 --> 00:25:26,396
Speaker 1: down there I am just doing my thing, and so

769
00:25:26,456 --> 00:25:28,023
Speaker 1: I love the idea of ayahuasca.

770
00:25:28,175 --> 00:25:30,323
Speaker 1: But there's a part of me that's kind of

771
00:25:30,363 --> 00:25:32,321
Speaker 1: like nah, I'd rather just be at home doing

772
00:25:32,341 --> 00:25:33,744
Speaker 1: my thing and like like, if it takes me an

773
00:25:33,784 --> 00:25:35,425
Speaker 1: extra 10 years, it takes me an extra 10

774
00:25:35,465 --> 00:25:36,786
Speaker 1: years, fair enough.

775
00:25:36,866 --> 00:25:38,628
Speaker 2: I know I said, to be fair, it's a lot of

776
00:25:38,648 --> 00:25:40,189
Speaker 2: effort you have to travel to like kind of

777
00:25:40,269 --> 00:25:42,271
Speaker 2: bolivia or mexico or whatever it is, and

778
00:25:42,651 --> 00:25:43,972
Speaker 2: that's just effort in itself.

779
00:25:43,992 --> 00:25:45,378
Speaker 2: Especially, you've got your comfort of your

780
00:25:45,418 --> 00:25:45,900
Speaker 2: own place.

781
00:25:46,261 --> 00:25:47,145
Speaker 2: You could just do it at home.

782
00:25:47,326 --> 00:25:49,315
Speaker 2: Okay, why would I spend so like thousands

783
00:25:49,455 --> 00:25:50,878
Speaker 2: and thousands of dollars to go and do it

784
00:25:50,899 --> 00:25:52,161
Speaker 2: somewhere else where I could just do it

785
00:25:52,181 --> 00:25:52,402
Speaker 2: here?

786
00:25:52,863 --> 00:25:54,647
Speaker 2: You know, makes sense, makes sense.

787
00:25:55,068 --> 00:25:57,273
Speaker 2: But I've had weird, crazy stuff about it.

788
00:25:57,894 --> 00:25:59,418
Speaker 2: Uh, all that sort of stuff and it's like

789
00:26:00,301 --> 00:26:02,346
Speaker 2: completely changes your perspective on life,

790
00:26:02,386 --> 00:26:03,276
Speaker 2: and all that sort of stuff.

791
00:26:03,296 --> 00:26:06,464
Speaker 2: So I was like okay, but you can't do it in

792
00:26:06,484 --> 00:26:07,667
Speaker 2: the uk where I am right now.

793
00:26:07,687 --> 00:26:08,536
Speaker 2: You can't do it here.

794
00:26:08,736 --> 00:26:11,022
Speaker 2: So, yeah, and I wouldn't want to get it

795
00:26:11,082 --> 00:26:11,443
Speaker 2: anywhere.

796
00:26:11,463 --> 00:26:12,706
Speaker 2: I don't want to speak to the guy over in

797
00:26:12,727 --> 00:26:14,817
Speaker 2: the back of the uh, the tesco or the

798
00:26:14,837 --> 00:26:15,518
Speaker 2: supermarket.

799
00:26:15,638 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: Know, with the trench coat on going, can

800
00:26:16,980 --> 00:26:17,421
Speaker 2: you get me some?

801
00:26:17,661 --> 00:26:18,963
Speaker 2: I didn't watch it, it was picked.

802
00:26:18,983 --> 00:26:20,905
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, yeah, yeah, I can get you

803
00:26:20,925 --> 00:26:21,326
Speaker 2: some.

804
00:26:21,346 --> 00:26:22,687
Speaker 2: You come back and it's like what the fuck

805
00:26:22,727 --> 00:26:23,008
Speaker 2: is this?

806
00:26:23,028 --> 00:26:25,251
Speaker 2: He goes, I have no idea, you know.

807
00:26:25,511 --> 00:26:40,182
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean with a little bit of weed, but

808
00:26:40,088 --> 00:26:40,771
Speaker 1: I wasn't really into it, never did any

809
00:26:40,677 --> 00:26:41,814
Speaker 1: other drugs, was never really like into.

810
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:42,196
Speaker 1: You know, for whatever reason I always

811
00:26:42,102 --> 00:26:42,576
Speaker 1: thought I would be, cause I feel like I'm a

812
00:26:42,482 --> 00:26:42,995
Speaker 1: pretty open person.

813
00:26:42,901 --> 00:26:42,894
Speaker 1: I was always like, oh yeah, I'm going to do

814
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:43,369
Speaker 1: a lot of cocaine, I'm going to do ecstasy,

815
00:26:43,669 --> 00:26:45,290
Speaker 1: but for whatever reason, never, you know,

816
00:26:45,330 --> 00:26:45,750
Speaker 1: felt right.

817
00:26:46,190 --> 00:26:49,691
Speaker 1: And then, um, it actually like a few years

818
00:26:49,731 --> 00:26:51,232
Speaker 1: ago I was really sick, I was having a

819
00:26:51,252 --> 00:26:54,513
Speaker 1: digestive episode and a friend of mine just

820
00:26:54,653 --> 00:26:56,974
Speaker 1: gave me some psilocybin gummies as a gift.

821
00:26:57,054 --> 00:26:58,337
Speaker 1: It was like I just feel like you're going

822
00:26:58,357 --> 00:27:00,222
Speaker 1: to appreciate this and it's the exact

823
00:27:00,403 --> 00:27:02,156
Speaker 1: opposite person I would expect right, this

824
00:27:02,196 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: is a very straight laced person but said,

825
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,295
Speaker 1: you know, hey, mike, I appreciate this and

826
00:27:06,355 --> 00:27:08,218
Speaker 1: I tried it and it was okay.

827
00:27:08,238 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: Like I didn't really, you know, I don't

828
00:27:10,620 --> 00:27:12,843
Speaker 1: like getting like like tripping balls, like

829
00:27:12,883 --> 00:27:14,365
Speaker 1: I don't want to go far, I just want you

830
00:27:14,385 --> 00:27:14,905
Speaker 1: know a little bit.

831
00:27:15,226 --> 00:27:16,627
Speaker 1: So it was okay, it didn't do much.

832
00:27:16,948 --> 00:27:19,170
Speaker 1: But I noticed that things in my life

833
00:27:19,190 --> 00:27:24,517
Speaker 1: started changing and I was like I don't

834
00:27:24,537 --> 00:27:25,319
Speaker 1: know if there's a correlation, but it's

835
00:27:25,339 --> 00:27:26,162
Speaker 1: enough to like get me interested, and so I

836
00:27:26,182 --> 00:27:27,386
Speaker 1: really kind of went down that rabbit hole,

837
00:27:27,527 --> 00:27:28,992
Speaker 1: mostly just microdosing.

838
00:27:29,815 --> 00:27:30,917
Speaker 1: But what I would do cause I'm cheap is I

839
00:27:30,937 --> 00:27:32,539
Speaker 1: would take two edibles, I would meditate

840
00:27:32,559 --> 00:27:33,881
Speaker 1: for an hour, I would take two edibles, I

841
00:27:33,901 --> 00:27:36,225
Speaker 1: would meditate for an hour, I would take a

842
00:27:36,285 --> 00:27:38,829
Speaker 1: bath and then I would take the psilocybin

843
00:27:38,869 --> 00:27:43,238
Speaker 1: and lie down so that like I was so open and

844
00:27:43,258 --> 00:27:44,202
Speaker 1: stuff that I could use a very small amount

845
00:27:44,403 --> 00:27:46,861
Speaker 1: and go pretty far, and so that I liked.

846
00:27:47,415 --> 00:27:49,157
Speaker 1: And yeah, I would have days where I would

847
00:27:49,177 --> 00:27:51,540
Speaker 1: just be sitting there and all of a sudden I

848
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,836
Speaker 1: would just like start crying and be like,

849
00:27:53,117 --> 00:27:54,463
Speaker 1: oh, I was judging my dad.

850
00:28:00,955 --> 00:28:01,877
Speaker 2: He wasn just like start crying and be like,

851
00:28:01,897 --> 00:28:02,900
Speaker 2: oh, I was judging my dad, he wasn't judging

852
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,023
Speaker 2: me, and it was just like suddenly I would

853
00:28:04,043 --> 00:28:04,264
Speaker 2: realize it.

854
00:28:04,284 --> 00:28:05,086
Speaker 2: Oh wow, just all of a sudden comes out.

855
00:28:05,106 --> 00:28:05,888
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's wild, it's fucking crazy.

856
00:28:05,908 --> 00:28:06,129
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

857
00:28:06,189 --> 00:28:07,252
Speaker 2: The thing is, with this, the journey you're

858
00:28:07,272 --> 00:28:09,477
Speaker 2: obviously going on, so I think it must be

859
00:28:09,517 --> 00:28:10,780
Speaker 2: like a breath of fresh air.

860
00:28:11,381 --> 00:28:12,965
Speaker 2: You know you must sit there and go.

861
00:28:13,406 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 2: You came, you must have went leaps and

862
00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:18,276
Speaker 2: bounds over the past year or so from what

863
00:28:18,296 --> 00:28:19,058
Speaker 2: you used to be like.

864
00:28:19,599 --> 00:28:22,826
Speaker 2: Do you ever feel, like, do you look back at

865
00:28:22,926 --> 00:28:23,948
Speaker 2: it and can I cringe?

866
00:28:23,988 --> 00:28:27,342
Speaker 1: now I take it oh, yeah, I mean, who doesn't

867
00:28:27,442 --> 00:28:28,504
Speaker 1: right, like every?

868
00:28:28,624 --> 00:28:30,408
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm still working on not being

869
00:28:30,428 --> 00:28:32,361
Speaker 1: ashamed of the past and realizing, you know,

870
00:28:32,381 --> 00:28:33,968
Speaker 1: we're doing the best we can with what we've

871
00:28:34,008 --> 00:28:36,959
Speaker 1: got, um, and integrating all of it because,

872
00:28:37,381 --> 00:28:39,588
Speaker 1: yeah, I mean, I am so much more connected

873
00:28:39,628 --> 00:28:41,474
Speaker 1: to my husband, closer, I'm so much more

874
00:28:41,514 --> 00:28:43,299
Speaker 1: connected to friends, family, like, I'm

875
00:28:43,339 --> 00:28:44,743
Speaker 1: just more honest about things.

876
00:28:45,485 --> 00:28:46,816
Speaker 1: So definitely there's a part of me that

877
00:28:46,836 --> 00:28:49,042
Speaker 1: cringes, but there's also a part of me that

878
00:28:49,102 --> 00:28:50,847
Speaker 1: you know has developed a little bit of

879
00:28:50,875 --> 00:28:53,100
Speaker 1: compassion, mostly for others I'm working

880
00:28:53,140 --> 00:28:54,663
Speaker 1: on for myself, but we all.

881
00:28:55,004 --> 00:28:56,887
Speaker 1: Right, I got another metaphor for you.

882
00:28:56,948 --> 00:28:57,589
Speaker 1: You like this.

883
00:28:58,978 --> 00:29:01,425
Speaker 1: So this one came to me in the last week or

884
00:29:01,486 --> 00:29:01,606
Speaker 1: so.

885
00:29:02,015 --> 00:29:04,944
Speaker 1: So I realized, you know, we're all alone on

886
00:29:04,964 --> 00:29:06,897
Speaker 1: this mountain hiking and we're walking

887
00:29:06,938 --> 00:29:08,823
Speaker 1: around and we're kind of lost and we're

888
00:29:08,864 --> 00:29:09,786
Speaker 1: really confused.

889
00:29:10,116 --> 00:29:11,863
Speaker 1: And then we see something we recognize,

890
00:29:12,055 --> 00:29:13,660
Speaker 1: either something we've seen before or

891
00:29:13,901 --> 00:29:21,676
Speaker 1: people that look like us, and we're like,

892
00:29:21,696 --> 00:29:22,378
Speaker 1: oh, this is it, I found it.

893
00:29:22,398 --> 00:29:23,341
Speaker 1: So we put a trail marker down, we put a

894
00:29:23,381 --> 00:29:24,565
Speaker 1: label down and we're like, fuck yeah, this

895
00:29:24,585 --> 00:29:24,806
Speaker 1: is my place.

896
00:29:24,826 --> 00:29:25,729
Speaker 1: And we hang out there for a while and then

897
00:29:25,749 --> 00:29:27,054
Speaker 1: maybe we start to get a little bit restless

898
00:29:27,375 --> 00:29:28,939
Speaker 1: and so we're like, oh, I'm gonna go venture

899
00:29:28,959 --> 00:29:30,143
Speaker 1: into those woods, I'm gonna go see what's

900
00:29:30,183 --> 00:29:30,504
Speaker 1: over there.

901
00:29:31,126 --> 00:29:32,858
Speaker 1: And we see something that feels even more

902
00:29:32,918 --> 00:29:34,241
Speaker 1: like us and we're like, oh my, oh, my God,

903
00:29:34,281 --> 00:29:34,742
Speaker 1: this is it.

904
00:29:34,842 --> 00:29:36,245
Speaker 1: And so we put another trail marker, another

905
00:29:36,265 --> 00:29:37,687
Speaker 1: label down right and we hang out with the

906
00:29:37,707 --> 00:29:39,818
Speaker 1: people that are like that and we keep doing

907
00:29:39,838 --> 00:29:40,660
Speaker 1: this throughout our lives.

908
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,265
Speaker 1: Some of us stay really close to these

909
00:29:42,285 --> 00:29:43,837
Speaker 1: labels, some of us keep venturing and

910
00:29:44,097 --> 00:29:47,825
Speaker 1: moving into new ones and sooner or later we

911
00:29:47,885 --> 00:29:51,016
Speaker 1: see somebody who is, you know, still at one

912
00:29:51,036 --> 00:29:52,739
Speaker 1: of those labels that we were at before.

913
00:29:52,820 --> 00:29:54,883
Speaker 1: Right, and they come over to us and there's

914
00:29:54,923 --> 00:29:56,446
Speaker 1: a part of us that wants to like, shame them

915
00:29:56,486 --> 00:29:58,049
Speaker 1: and be like oh, I'm so much better than you

916
00:29:58,095 --> 00:29:59,702
Speaker 1: because I'm like way ahead on this path.

917
00:30:00,236 --> 00:30:01,181
Speaker 1: And then I paused.

918
00:30:01,295 --> 00:30:03,898
Speaker 1: I'm like no, no, no, I'm not just this

919
00:30:03,958 --> 00:30:06,937
Speaker 1: current label, I'm the whole path, I'm all

920
00:30:06,998 --> 00:30:07,359
Speaker 1: of that.

921
00:30:07,660 --> 00:30:09,556
Speaker 1: And so I know you, I know exactly what

922
00:30:09,576 --> 00:30:12,177
Speaker 1: you're feeling, I know exactly what I'm not

923
00:30:12,298 --> 00:30:14,559
Speaker 1: better than you, I'm still that exact

924
00:30:14,579 --> 00:30:14,959
Speaker 1: person.

925
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,222
Speaker 1: And then this is the real secret One day we

926
00:30:18,282 --> 00:30:20,783
Speaker 1: realize we're not even the path, we're the

927
00:30:20,803 --> 00:30:22,745
Speaker 1: whole fucking mountain, it's just the parts

928
00:30:22,785 --> 00:30:23,665
Speaker 1: we haven't explored yet.

929
00:30:23,725 --> 00:30:25,186
Speaker 1: The path is all we've explored and that's

930
00:30:25,226 --> 00:30:26,547
Speaker 1: cool, that's awesome.

931
00:30:26,887 --> 00:30:29,189
Speaker 1: But there's so much to explore and so

932
00:30:29,269 --> 00:30:31,971
Speaker 1: labels, identity, these are amazing things

933
00:30:32,031 --> 00:30:34,833
Speaker 1: to like signpost, say, where we've been,

934
00:30:36,155 --> 00:30:37,380
Speaker 1: help us connect with people, but ultimately

935
00:30:37,902 --> 00:30:39,821
Speaker 1: it's just one trail marker and a whole big

936
00:30:39,841 --> 00:30:41,749
Speaker 1: trail I like that.

937
00:30:41,769 --> 00:30:42,833
Speaker 2: That's why that's pretty deep.

938
00:30:42,973 --> 00:30:43,876
Speaker 2: That's pretty deep it is.

939
00:30:44,357 --> 00:30:44,939
Speaker 2: I like that.

940
00:30:44,959 --> 00:30:46,903
Speaker 2: That's pretty cool the way, if you yeah

941
00:30:46,964 --> 00:30:47,906
Speaker 2: well, I have to.

942
00:30:48,166 --> 00:30:51,068
Speaker 2: I have to dive, delve more into that myself.

943
00:30:51,109 --> 00:30:52,195
Speaker 2: To be fair, I'm gonna have to do that.

944
00:30:53,979 --> 00:30:55,383
Speaker 2: I'll be sitting here later on tonight,

945
00:30:55,423 --> 00:30:56,886
Speaker 2: going, going to bed, just lying awake with

946
00:30:56,906 --> 00:30:59,623
Speaker 2: my eyes wide open just going what's his

947
00:30:59,703 --> 00:30:59,984
Speaker 2: life?

948
00:31:01,796 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 2: What do I do?

949
00:31:02,820 --> 00:31:03,382
Speaker 2: Where's my man?

950
00:31:03,435 --> 00:31:04,118
Speaker 2: I need some mushrooms.

951
00:31:04,158 --> 00:31:05,282
Speaker 2: I need to get my guy involved.

952
00:31:05,563 --> 00:31:08,962
Speaker 2: Come over, that would sort me right out,

953
00:31:08,982 --> 00:31:09,484
Speaker 2: sort of thing.

954
00:31:10,035 --> 00:31:13,415
Speaker 2: So you mentioned as well, with the musical

955
00:31:13,535 --> 00:31:15,624
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, were you devastated?

956
00:31:15,998 --> 00:31:18,518
Speaker 2: Were you trying to Question?

957
00:31:18,638 --> 00:31:20,725
Speaker 2: One, did you not try and play yourself in

958
00:31:20,745 --> 00:31:21,186
Speaker 2: the musical?

959
00:31:21,795 --> 00:31:23,536
Speaker 2: And two, are you happy with the guy who's

960
00:31:23,597 --> 00:31:24,260
Speaker 2: actually playing you?

961
00:31:24,735 --> 00:31:28,424
Speaker 2: Because I would be like picking him from a

962
00:31:28,484 --> 00:31:31,684
Speaker 2: lineup of the most handsomest people in the

963
00:31:31,724 --> 00:31:34,178
Speaker 2: world, who's bald and a beard, and go right,

964
00:31:34,198 --> 00:31:35,764
Speaker 2: you can be me, you're good enough.

965
00:31:36,115 --> 00:31:37,722
Speaker 2: You might be the shittest actor in the

966
00:31:37,742 --> 00:31:39,762
Speaker 2: world, but hey, you look the part, mate.

967
00:31:41,276 --> 00:31:44,285
Speaker 1: So number one for the entire world.

968
00:31:44,515 --> 00:31:47,361
Speaker 1: It's thankful that I can't sing and never

969
00:31:47,562 --> 00:31:48,777
Speaker 1: wanted to be in that because I would be

970
00:31:48,817 --> 00:31:50,698
Speaker 1: terrible in this musical, so I'm so glad

971
00:31:50,718 --> 00:31:51,843
Speaker 1: that I'm not in this musical.

972
00:31:53,218 --> 00:31:54,856
Speaker 1: As far as the casting and stuff, it's

973
00:31:54,977 --> 00:31:57,114
Speaker 1: interesting because, you know, we have very

974
00:31:57,335 --> 00:31:59,321
Speaker 1: little control over a lot of things and

975
00:31:59,381 --> 00:32:00,624
Speaker 1: it's probably for the best.

976
00:32:00,644 --> 00:32:02,717
Speaker 1: Like I know nothing about broadway, I know

977
00:32:02,797 --> 00:32:05,643
Speaker 1: nothing about musicals, um, yeah, I got to

978
00:32:05,664 --> 00:32:07,648
Speaker 1: learn my first table read the other day,

979
00:32:07,796 --> 00:32:09,181
Speaker 1: which I didn't even really know what that

980
00:32:09,222 --> 00:32:09,864
Speaker 1: was like.

981
00:32:09,884 --> 00:32:12,094
Speaker 1: Like listen to act is, you know, reading it

982
00:32:12,134 --> 00:32:13,819
Speaker 1: in front of producers and all these things.

983
00:32:14,420 --> 00:32:16,706
Speaker 1: And, um, I mean, my heart was racing the

984
00:32:16,726 --> 00:32:18,180
Speaker 1: whole time, which I don't know why.

985
00:32:18,396 --> 00:32:20,257
Speaker 1: I didn't have to say or do anything, but I

986
00:32:20,277 --> 00:32:21,482
Speaker 1: was nervous the whole time.

987
00:32:22,736 --> 00:32:24,516
Speaker 1: You know, we've had a few iterations, so

988
00:32:24,596 --> 00:32:27,184
Speaker 1: I've now had three mics.

989
00:32:27,365 --> 00:32:30,541
Speaker 1: I think that I've gotten to know, and the

990
00:32:30,581 --> 00:32:33,158
Speaker 1: great thing about a gay relationship is we

991
00:32:33,178 --> 00:32:35,345
Speaker 1: can be competitive over everything.

992
00:32:35,815 --> 00:32:37,510
Speaker 1: And so, of course, course, I am like

993
00:32:37,691 --> 00:32:40,060
Speaker 1: totally like who's better looking, who has

994
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,186
Speaker 1: a better voice, who's a better actor, like

995
00:32:42,206 --> 00:32:43,717
Speaker 1: garrett, and I can totally compete about

996
00:32:43,757 --> 00:32:43,978
Speaker 1: that.

997
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,284
Speaker 1: Um, but actually, to be honest with you,

998
00:32:46,344 --> 00:32:48,238
Speaker 1: the actors have been like phenomenal.

999
00:32:48,298 --> 00:32:50,186
Speaker 1: They've blown me out of the water and you

1000
00:32:50,226 --> 00:32:52,415
Speaker 1: know, as I'm learning, as the show grows,

1001
00:32:52,796 --> 00:32:53,918
Speaker 1: they keep getting better and better.

1002
00:32:53,998 --> 00:32:56,001
Speaker 1: So we've had like really phenomenal actors

1003
00:32:56,182 --> 00:32:58,766
Speaker 1: and but I just keep telling every actor,

1004
00:32:58,786 --> 00:33:01,337
Speaker 1: when we the new actor comes, I say I want

1005
00:33:01,357 --> 00:33:04,326
Speaker 1: you to get really famous, because that way

1006
00:33:04,415 --> 00:33:06,583
Speaker 1: if I'm ever a party and someone says to me

1007
00:33:06,856 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: who do you think would play you in a movie,

1008
00:33:08,220 --> 00:33:10,316
Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh shit, I know, and so that's

1009
00:33:10,356 --> 00:33:12,098
Speaker 1: what I'm looking for here, yeah, yeah,

1010
00:33:12,118 --> 00:33:13,379
Speaker 1: because he's already done it.

1011
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,982
Speaker 2: I had a conversation about who would play

1012
00:33:16,002 --> 00:33:17,584
Speaker 2: yourself in a movie, sort of thing, and I

1013
00:33:17,624 --> 00:33:22,390
Speaker 2: said James McAvoy, because he's just a bit

1014
00:33:22,410 --> 00:33:23,471
Speaker 2: of a legend, really isn't he?

1015
00:33:24,175 --> 00:33:24,542
Speaker 1: I see that for you.

1016
00:33:24,563 --> 00:33:26,617
Speaker 2: I see a resemblance there, you've got the

1017
00:33:26,657 --> 00:33:27,681
Speaker 2: Scottishness there.

1018
00:33:27,721 --> 00:33:28,444
Speaker 2: He shaves his head.

1019
00:33:28,595 --> 00:33:30,081
Speaker 2: He looked good in X-Men with a bald head.

1020
00:33:31,015 --> 00:33:32,257
Speaker 2: I think he can pull off a beard.

1021
00:33:32,277 --> 00:33:33,518
Speaker 2: So I was like I'll get james mcavoy

1022
00:33:33,558 --> 00:33:33,919
Speaker 2: involved.

1023
00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:36,482
Speaker 2: And then, um, somebody said, uh, what was

1024
00:33:36,522 --> 00:33:39,546
Speaker 2: it renting, um, or was it all it goes?

1025
00:33:39,626 --> 00:33:40,807
Speaker 2: Yeah, it goes.

1026
00:33:40,847 --> 00:33:42,049
Speaker 2: You throw regga.

1027
00:33:42,429 --> 00:33:50,635
Speaker 2: For when he was in train spotting, uh, okay.

1028
00:33:50,756 --> 00:33:52,179
Speaker 2: So I was like, do I look like a smack head?

1029
00:33:52,199 --> 00:33:53,141
Speaker 2: Then is that what I'm?

1030
00:33:53,161 --> 00:33:53,441
Speaker 2: Looking like?

1031
00:33:53,462 --> 00:33:53,862
Speaker 2: A heroin addict.

1032
00:33:53,882 --> 00:33:54,203
Speaker 2: Thanks for that.

1033
00:33:54,223 --> 00:33:55,125
Speaker 2: Um, but yeah, did you feel as if it was a

1034
00:33:55,145 --> 00:33:55,606
Speaker 2: bit weird?

1035
00:33:55,626 --> 00:33:57,410
Speaker 2: Because obviously, when you you walk into

1036
00:33:57,430 --> 00:33:59,062
Speaker 2: the table read people have never met you

1037
00:33:59,082 --> 00:33:59,564
Speaker 2: the actors.

1038
00:33:59,905 --> 00:34:00,628
Speaker 2: Did they turn around?

1039
00:34:01,171 --> 00:34:02,155
Speaker 2: Were they expecting someone?

1040
00:34:02,356 --> 00:34:04,544
Speaker 2: This, the mic is coming in, it's about him,

1041
00:34:04,645 --> 00:34:06,151
Speaker 2: this is his, his story.

1042
00:34:06,171 --> 00:34:07,416
Speaker 2: Did he expect you to come out and give it

1043
00:34:07,476 --> 00:34:07,596
Speaker 2: all?

1044
00:34:07,636 --> 00:34:11,104
Speaker 2: Like, hi, hi, how you all kind of you know

1045
00:34:11,124 --> 00:34:12,688
Speaker 2: like, uh, let's say, this story's about me.

1046
00:34:12,976 --> 00:34:14,402
Speaker 2: But you just walked in with a flannel shirt

1047
00:34:14,443 --> 00:34:15,628
Speaker 2: with say, show me your tits on it.

1048
00:34:16,430 --> 00:34:18,352
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, unfortunately I did wear a suit

1049
00:34:18,372 --> 00:34:18,873
Speaker 1: that day.

1050
00:34:18,973 --> 00:34:20,635
Speaker 1: So, you know, really sad for me.

1051
00:34:20,975 --> 00:34:25,379
Speaker 1: But no, it is weird because people have

1052
00:34:25,439 --> 00:34:27,842
Speaker 1: been working on this project and, like we

1053
00:34:27,882 --> 00:34:28,863
Speaker 1: had to do some.

1054
00:34:29,303 --> 00:34:30,745
Speaker 1: You know, I felt I'm going to sound like

1055
00:34:30,765 --> 00:34:32,326
Speaker 1: such a douchebag right now and I love it,

1056
00:34:32,346 --> 00:34:42,451
Speaker 1: so I'm going to try to to go to a little

1057
00:34:42,472 --> 00:34:43,275
Speaker 1: party and, um, the producer said, hey, can

1058
00:34:43,295 --> 00:34:44,259
Speaker 1: the social media person grab you for a few

1059
00:34:44,279 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: questions?

1060
00:34:44,561 --> 00:34:45,465
Speaker 1: And I, like you know, I really did feel

1061
00:34:45,485 --> 00:34:46,429
Speaker 1: like what the hell this is like you know,

1062
00:34:46,449 --> 00:34:47,432
Speaker 1: just like pass along.

1063
00:34:47,873 --> 00:34:50,418
Speaker 1: And the pr person, she looked at me and she

1064
00:34:50,478 --> 00:34:52,603
Speaker 1: said it's like meeting a celebrity, it's an

1065
00:34:52,910 --> 00:34:54,454
Speaker 1: honor because we've been talking about you

1066
00:34:54,515 --> 00:34:57,582
Speaker 1: so much, and so it was a very surreal,

1067
00:34:57,643 --> 00:35:00,298
Speaker 1: weird feeling because I'm like, I am not

1068
00:35:00,318 --> 00:35:02,388
Speaker 1: important, I mean nothing, I am less

1069
00:35:02,428 --> 00:35:05,177
Speaker 1: talented than every person here and yet

1070
00:35:05,217 --> 00:35:07,524
Speaker 1: like, and so there is a weird energy to it

1071
00:35:07,584 --> 00:35:09,028
Speaker 1: because it's fun.

1072
00:35:09,269 --> 00:35:10,996
Speaker 1: I'll admit it's fun because you get to go

1073
00:35:11,036 --> 00:35:12,843
Speaker 1: to the parties and people treat you like

1074
00:35:12,903 --> 00:35:15,092
Speaker 1: you did something important for this

1075
00:35:15,152 --> 00:35:17,479
Speaker 1: project but you did absolutely nothing and

1076
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,670
Speaker 1: you have no talent, and so, um, it is kind

1077
00:35:20,690 --> 00:35:22,392
Speaker 1: of a fun energy, but but I'll be honest, I

1078
00:35:22,452 --> 00:35:24,983
Speaker 1: do feel a little bit like not good enough

1079
00:35:25,044 --> 00:35:26,450
Speaker 1: sometimes, because you're just surrounded

1080
00:35:26,751 --> 00:35:29,017
Speaker 1: by really talented people and you're like I

1081
00:35:29,057 --> 00:35:29,478
Speaker 1: don't know.

1082
00:35:29,578 --> 00:35:31,590
Speaker 1: And then they ask you what you think and

1083
00:35:31,751 --> 00:35:34,676
Speaker 1: the thing is, you know, for good reason.

1084
00:35:34,857 --> 00:35:38,624
Speaker 1: The story is very accurate in a lot of ways

1085
00:35:38,850 --> 00:35:41,357
Speaker 1: but also keeps getting dramatized and so it

1086
00:35:41,397 --> 00:35:42,962
Speaker 1: gets less and less like our lives.

1087
00:35:43,270 --> 00:35:44,504
Speaker 1: So I kind of feel like I'm not really

1088
00:35:44,545 --> 00:35:47,591
Speaker 1: commenting on anything to do with me and in

1089
00:35:47,671 --> 00:35:50,532
Speaker 1: fact I'm just like a spectator, like oh,

1090
00:35:50,572 --> 00:35:52,313
Speaker 1: that's kind of interesting, but it's not

1091
00:35:52,433 --> 00:35:53,377
Speaker 1: really about me.

1092
00:35:53,530 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 1: So it's a weird middle ground for me.

1093
00:35:57,450 --> 00:35:59,374
Speaker 2: Do you not try and get like a walk-on part?

1094
00:35:59,394 --> 00:35:59,915
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

1095
00:35:59,955 --> 00:36:00,636
Speaker 2: Just ground for me.

1096
00:36:00,656 --> 00:36:01,437
Speaker 2: Try and get a walk-on part.

1097
00:36:01,597 --> 00:36:02,018
Speaker 2: You know what?

1098
00:36:02,138 --> 00:36:05,184
Speaker 1: I mean my uncle, who's probably like 65 or

1099
00:36:05,224 --> 00:36:05,324
Speaker 1: so.

1100
00:36:06,570 --> 00:36:06,791
Speaker 1: He is all.

1101
00:36:06,991 --> 00:36:09,018
Speaker 1: By the way, this is supposed to be me when

1102
00:36:09,038 --> 00:36:09,700
Speaker 1: I was 24.

1103
00:36:10,451 --> 00:36:11,496
Speaker 1: 25, around that time.

1104
00:36:12,172 --> 00:36:13,992
Speaker 1: So you know, this is a while back.

1105
00:36:14,855 --> 00:36:16,815
Speaker 1: So, first of all, as far as actors go, it's

1106
00:36:16,915 --> 00:36:17,751
Speaker 1: all Gen Z kids.

1107
00:36:17,832 --> 00:36:19,298
Speaker 1: I don't know the actors.

1108
00:36:26,410 --> 00:36:27,192
Speaker 1: So when people say, say who's your dream

1109
00:36:27,211 --> 00:36:27,973
Speaker 1: actor, I'm on chat gbt trying to ask

1110
00:36:27,993 --> 00:36:29,095
Speaker 1: because timothy chalamet is the only person

1111
00:36:29,115 --> 00:36:29,456
Speaker 1: I know.

1112
00:36:29,476 --> 00:36:30,217
Speaker 1: So I don't know, uh, who else to say.

1113
00:36:30,237 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 1: But, um, uh, yeah, my uncle, he's 65.

1114
00:36:32,001 --> 00:36:34,170
Speaker 1: He's always like did you pitch me yet?

1115
00:36:34,250 --> 00:36:35,473
Speaker 1: Do you pitch me like I think I should be in

1116
00:36:35,493 --> 00:36:36,935
Speaker 1: the show, like I think that they, they need

1117
00:36:36,955 --> 00:36:38,999
Speaker 1: me in there, like oh, yeah, yeah, so it's

1118
00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:40,601
Speaker 1: actually, it's only two people, it's only

1119
00:36:40,682 --> 00:36:43,386
Speaker 1: two actors in the whole time, okay, oh,

1120
00:36:43,466 --> 00:36:45,109
Speaker 1: it's a story about two people, so that

1121
00:36:45,129 --> 00:36:46,613
Speaker 1: makes sense, there's only yeah, yeah, but I

1122
00:36:46,633 --> 00:36:48,277
Speaker 1: mean it's really kind of wild like they

1123
00:36:48,357 --> 00:36:52,054
Speaker 1: reference um, garrett's girlfriend but and

1124
00:36:52,094 --> 00:36:53,498
Speaker 1: she's in it, but she's not actually a

1125
00:36:53,538 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 1: physical character.

1126
00:36:54,821 --> 00:36:56,533
Speaker 1: I should just mention that a few times and

1127
00:36:56,553 --> 00:36:59,479
Speaker 1: stuff, yeah, her name's jenna in it, and I

1128
00:36:59,539 --> 00:37:01,003
Speaker 1: think it's really funny that there's this

1129
00:37:01,063 --> 00:37:03,495
Speaker 1: like group of mostly you know, mostly only

1130
00:37:03,556 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: friends and family have seen it but, um,

1131
00:37:05,841 --> 00:37:07,534
Speaker 1: there's a group of people who say that they

1132
00:37:07,594 --> 00:37:10,465
Speaker 1: are like jenna's supporters in justice for

1133
00:37:10,485 --> 00:37:12,714
Speaker 1: jenna, who's garrett cheats on her in it,

1134
00:37:13,156 --> 00:37:14,642
Speaker 1: and so I said that to the premiere.

1135
00:37:14,662 --> 00:37:16,630
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wear a justice for jenna t-shirt

1136
00:37:17,392 --> 00:37:18,895
Speaker 1: oh jesus, did you think she knows?

1137
00:37:18,955 --> 00:37:19,457
Speaker 1: about the play.

1138
00:37:20,359 --> 00:37:20,900
Speaker 1: So she does.

1139
00:37:21,241 --> 00:37:22,003
Speaker 1: He's still friends with her.

1140
00:37:22,211 --> 00:37:23,820
Speaker 1: Her name is not jenna in real life I won't

1141
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,348
Speaker 1: reveal her name because they changed it for

1142
00:37:25,369 --> 00:37:26,976
Speaker 1: a reason, but, um, we still know her.

1143
00:37:27,298 --> 00:37:28,021
Speaker 1: Uh, we're friends with her.

1144
00:37:28,081 --> 00:37:28,844
Speaker 1: She's married now.

1145
00:37:29,186 --> 00:37:30,892
Speaker 1: We went to her wedding last year and, um,

1146
00:37:30,912 --> 00:37:32,155
Speaker 1: we're gonna try to get her to go to the

1147
00:37:32,195 --> 00:37:34,801
Speaker 1: next show that'd be funny.

1148
00:37:35,142 --> 00:37:36,131
Speaker 2: Well, it must be a little bit.

1149
00:37:36,151 --> 00:37:38,054
Speaker 2: Well, the main thing is you guys are still

1150
00:37:38,074 --> 00:37:38,936
Speaker 2: like, kind of amicable about it.

1151
00:37:38,956 --> 00:37:39,436
Speaker 2: That's the main thing is.

1152
00:37:39,456 --> 00:37:40,298
Speaker 2: You guys are still kind of amical about it.

1153
00:37:40,318 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: That's the main thing about it, because a

1154
00:37:41,620 --> 00:37:43,283
Speaker 2: lot of people could go the opposite way and

1155
00:37:43,303 --> 00:37:44,085
Speaker 2: start hating him.

1156
00:37:45,190 --> 00:37:46,496
Speaker 1: And he would kill me if I didn't say this.

1157
00:37:46,750 --> 00:37:48,751
Speaker 1: He didn't cheat on her in real life, so

1158
00:37:48,771 --> 00:37:50,276
Speaker 1: that's important for him to get out there.

1159
00:37:50,296 --> 00:37:50,818
Speaker 1: Make sure of that.

1160
00:37:50,858 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.

1161
00:37:51,670 --> 00:37:53,016
Speaker 2: Wow, you don't want to be branded as that.

1162
00:38:04,790 --> 00:38:05,707
Speaker 1: Yeah, but why did they change the play

1163
00:38:05,584 --> 00:38:05,770
Speaker 1: there if he didn't life?

1164
00:38:05,646 --> 00:38:06,510
Speaker 1: Was that the dramatization of everything?

1165
00:38:06,386 --> 00:38:07,546
Speaker 2: yeah, just the dramatization, and you know

1166
00:38:07,422 --> 00:38:08,487
Speaker 2: there wasn't actually an overlap between

1167
00:38:08,363 --> 00:38:08,696
Speaker 2: him dating her and me, there was, you know,

1168
00:38:08,573 --> 00:38:09,021
Speaker 2: a little bit of break, but for the story it

1169
00:38:08,897 --> 00:38:09,511
Speaker 2: sounds more dramatic.

1170
00:38:09,388 --> 00:38:09,770
Speaker 2: You know that does, doesn't it?

1171
00:38:09,647 --> 00:38:10,515
Speaker 2: Got it got sick, got to get bums on seats

1172
00:38:10,575 --> 00:38:10,876
Speaker 2: making.

1173
00:38:10,936 --> 00:38:12,259
Speaker 2: I mean you'll have to have some way of

1174
00:38:12,300 --> 00:38:13,583
Speaker 2: getting the audience in.

1175
00:38:14,151 --> 00:38:15,452
Speaker 2: So, uh, I'll be good.

1176
00:38:15,492 --> 00:38:16,914
Speaker 2: I mean that's going to be exciting times.

1177
00:38:16,934 --> 00:38:17,996
Speaker 2: You mentioned there's going to be a lot of

1178
00:38:18,016 --> 00:38:18,617
Speaker 2: things happening.

1179
00:38:18,697 --> 00:38:20,379
Speaker 2: Is there anything you can tell us about it?

1180
00:38:20,399 --> 00:38:23,243
Speaker 1: I mean it's really good.

1181
00:38:23,263 --> 00:38:25,105
Speaker 1: So they do have, uh, a song type.

1182
00:38:25,125 --> 00:38:27,476
Speaker 1: They put out a five song ep, uh, in, I

1183
00:38:27,496 --> 00:38:29,122
Speaker 1: think, november time period, so you can go

1184
00:38:29,143 --> 00:38:29,544
Speaker 1: look it up.

1185
00:38:29,665 --> 00:38:31,471
Speaker 1: It's straightforward, musical, it's on,

1186
00:38:31,491 --> 00:38:34,036
Speaker 1: like spotify or instagram.

1187
00:38:34,117 --> 00:38:35,660
Speaker 1: Even you can put in your stories, which is

1188
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,672
Speaker 1: kind of cool pen, I don't know, pandora

1189
00:38:37,692 --> 00:38:40,102
Speaker 1: maybe, but yeah, spotify, um, apple music,

1190
00:38:40,182 --> 00:38:41,909
Speaker 1: any of those you can go listen and they're

1191
00:38:41,929 --> 00:38:42,572
Speaker 1: actually pretty good.

1192
00:38:42,672 --> 00:38:43,898
Speaker 1: So they're five songs out.

1193
00:38:44,693 --> 00:38:45,235
Speaker 2: Oh, nice one.

1194
00:38:45,256 --> 00:38:48,454
Speaker 2: Nice one, that's pretty special, that

1195
00:38:48,474 --> 00:38:50,069
Speaker 2: you've made somebody's made a musical of

1196
00:38:50,089 --> 00:38:50,150
Speaker 2: you.

1197
00:38:50,855 --> 00:38:51,984
Speaker 2: That's like you've kind of peaked.

1198
00:38:52,004 --> 00:38:52,730
Speaker 2: Now you know what I mean.

1199
00:38:55,221 --> 00:38:56,306
Speaker 2: It's not going up from here.

1200
00:38:57,029 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 2: I'm down I tell you what, next time I speak

1201
00:38:59,939 --> 00:39:01,074
Speaker 2: to you in the next five years and you're

1202
00:39:01,115 --> 00:39:02,822
Speaker 2: gone, they're making a movie about it.

1203
00:39:02,882 --> 00:39:03,565
Speaker 2: I'm just not even gonna.

1204
00:39:03,645 --> 00:39:05,271
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna hang around, I'm just

1205
00:39:05,292 --> 00:39:07,236
Speaker 2: gonna five minute long episode like fuck

1206
00:39:07,256 --> 00:39:08,299
Speaker 2: you mate, and then just go.

1207
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,374
Speaker 1: I've like fuck you good episode, just

1208
00:39:11,394 --> 00:39:13,099
Speaker 1: people continuously saying fuck you to me.

1209
00:39:13,139 --> 00:39:15,974
Speaker 2: I like that you're like, yep, I'm okay with

1210
00:39:16,034 --> 00:39:16,976
Speaker 2: it, I'm okay with it.

1211
00:39:17,537 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 2: But oh man, it's crazy.

1212
00:39:19,039 --> 00:39:20,922
Speaker 2: My little daughter I've got my nine year

1213
00:39:20,962 --> 00:39:21,103
Speaker 2: old.

1214
00:39:21,123 --> 00:39:22,104
Speaker 2: She's nine years old now.

1215
00:39:22,144 --> 00:39:25,220
Speaker 2: She's right into her musicals as well and

1216
00:39:26,735 --> 00:39:27,237
Speaker 2: loves it.

1217
00:39:27,257 --> 00:39:29,054
Speaker 2: She does all that kind of theatre and drama

1218
00:39:29,074 --> 00:39:29,958
Speaker 2: and all that sort of stuff.

1219
00:39:29,978 --> 00:39:32,388
Speaker 2: But she went and saw Wicked the other day

1220
00:39:32,409 --> 00:39:37,380
Speaker 2: there and I came home and well she, she

1221
00:39:37,421 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 2: came over to the weekend and she decided to

1222
00:39:40,140 --> 00:39:43,553
Speaker 2: act out the entirety of Wicked in front of

1223
00:39:43,654 --> 00:39:47,415
Speaker 2: me while the show sorry, not the show, but

1224
00:39:47,455 --> 00:39:49,214
Speaker 2: the new movie was out and she was telling

1225
00:39:49,234 --> 00:39:51,851
Speaker 2: me all about it and I was just like you

1226
00:39:51,871 --> 00:39:53,357
Speaker 2: better be getting me rich and famous,

1227
00:39:53,852 --> 00:39:55,330
Speaker 2: because she better buy me a house, because

1228
00:39:55,350 --> 00:39:57,518
Speaker 2: I tell you what, she's got it, she's got it,

1229
00:39:57,538 --> 00:39:57,959
Speaker 2: she loves it.

1230
00:39:58,130 --> 00:40:00,098
Speaker 2: So I'm all musicaled up in a minute

1231
00:40:01,630 --> 00:40:01,831
Speaker 2: Constantly.

1232
00:40:01,851 --> 00:40:03,156
Speaker 2: She's got it, she's got it, she loves it.

1233
00:40:03,176 --> 00:40:03,999
Speaker 2: So I'm all musical duff in a minute

1234
00:40:04,019 --> 00:40:04,220
Speaker 2: constantly.

1235
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:04,582
Speaker 2: I love that, and.

1236
00:40:04,602 --> 00:40:05,325
Speaker 2: But yeah, she's a good kid, bless her.

1237
00:40:05,345 --> 00:40:05,927
Speaker 2: But she's loving her musicals.

1238
00:40:05,947 --> 00:40:06,630
Speaker 2: Now do you know what it's making?

1239
00:40:07,352 --> 00:40:08,998
Speaker 2: I'm liking musicals again because I used to

1240
00:40:09,018 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 2: be dead against them.

1241
00:40:10,312 --> 00:40:10,995
Speaker 2: I used to hate them.

1242
00:40:11,015 --> 00:40:13,249
Speaker 2: I used to just go, oh, this is so boring,

1243
00:40:13,490 --> 00:40:14,252
Speaker 2: and all that sort of stuff.

1244
00:40:14,272 --> 00:40:18,219
Speaker 2: But I getting swayed towards the musicals

1245
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:19,201
Speaker 2: just because I've been watching them with

1246
00:40:19,221 --> 00:40:20,623
Speaker 2: my kids and I'm like, all right, cool,

1247
00:40:20,723 --> 00:40:21,224
Speaker 2: what's next?

1248
00:40:21,790 --> 00:40:22,815
Speaker 2: You know what are we watching next?

1249
00:40:23,071 --> 00:40:24,718
Speaker 2: And she goes for hardcore ones.

1250
00:40:25,110 --> 00:40:27,396
Speaker 2: I actually went to a show called Miss

1251
00:40:27,416 --> 00:40:27,897
Speaker 2: Saigon.

1252
00:40:27,917 --> 00:40:28,899
Speaker 2: Have you seen that one before?

1253
00:40:29,300 --> 00:40:31,433
Speaker 1: I have you know when I was little, it was

1254
00:40:31,493 --> 00:40:32,396
Speaker 1: my favorite musical.

1255
00:40:32,998 --> 00:40:33,199
Speaker 2: Is it?

1256
00:40:36,616 --> 00:40:38,219
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got dragged to that and I was just

1257
00:40:38,579 --> 00:40:40,803
Speaker 2: that's how uncultured I was back then

1258
00:40:40,823 --> 00:40:42,717
Speaker 2: because I was like when are they talking?

1259
00:40:42,878 --> 00:40:44,225
Speaker 2: They sing all the way through it, don't

1260
00:40:44,245 --> 00:40:44,325
Speaker 2: they?

1261
00:40:44,346 --> 00:40:45,792
Speaker 2: And that's like a proper musical is.

1262
00:40:45,812 --> 00:40:47,336
Speaker 2: They sing everything.

1263
00:40:47,697 --> 00:40:49,421
Speaker 2: And it's like I'm now walking down the

1264
00:40:49,461 --> 00:40:51,491
Speaker 2: stairs and I'm like why can you just say

1265
00:40:51,512 --> 00:40:51,712
Speaker 2: that?

1266
00:40:51,732 --> 00:40:53,597
Speaker 2: You know, I'm just like, and they, they did

1267
00:40:53,637 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 2: that and I was like I.

1268
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:56,350
Speaker 2: It freaked me right out.

1269
00:40:56,431 --> 00:40:57,453
Speaker 2: It freaked me out because why are they

1270
00:40:57,493 --> 00:40:57,813
Speaker 2: talking?

1271
00:40:57,833 --> 00:40:59,056
Speaker 2: Why are they singing while talking?

1272
00:40:59,116 --> 00:40:59,276
Speaker 2: What?

1273
00:40:59,316 --> 00:40:59,977
Speaker 2: What's going on?

1274
00:41:00,659 --> 00:41:01,981
Speaker 2: And then I realized that's what musicals

1275
00:41:02,001 --> 00:41:02,382
Speaker 2: are all about.

1276
00:41:02,402 --> 00:41:03,790
Speaker 2: They're not like disney musicals, where

1277
00:41:03,810 --> 00:41:05,575
Speaker 2: they have like musical numbers every now

1278
00:41:05,595 --> 00:41:06,016
Speaker 2: and again.

1279
00:41:06,116 --> 00:41:08,582
Speaker 2: It's all the way right well, yeah, so I've

1280
00:41:08,610 --> 00:41:09,837
Speaker 2: been getting into my musicals recently

1281
00:41:09,877 --> 00:41:11,728
Speaker 2: because of my crazy daughter is getting

1282
00:41:11,748 --> 00:41:12,150
Speaker 2: into him as well.

1283
00:41:12,370 --> 00:41:12,911
Speaker 2: So there you go.

1284
00:41:13,352 --> 00:41:14,435
Speaker 1: I love this.

1285
00:41:14,555 --> 00:41:16,418
Speaker 1: I uh, that's so amazing.

1286
00:41:16,759 --> 00:41:17,821
Speaker 1: I went when I was little.

1287
00:41:17,962 --> 00:41:20,807
Speaker 1: My grandpa used to take us to musicals uh,

1288
00:41:20,827 --> 00:41:23,896
Speaker 1: just in boston, because, um, he, I think he

1289
00:41:24,056 --> 00:41:26,163
Speaker 1: thought we were very uncultured, so like he

1290
00:41:26,183 --> 00:41:27,628
Speaker 1: needed to teach us something.

1291
00:41:28,089 --> 00:41:30,234
Speaker 1: Except he would fall asleep and snore every

1292
00:41:30,274 --> 00:41:33,542
Speaker 1: musical we went to and I never, like after

1293
00:41:33,562 --> 00:41:35,053
Speaker 1: that, I kind of like forgot about them,

1294
00:41:35,134 --> 00:41:37,042
Speaker 1: wasn't really into musicals, and so it was

1295
00:41:37,082 --> 00:41:38,990
Speaker 1: a big irony because I know nothing about

1296
00:41:39,090 --> 00:41:39,271
Speaker 1: them.

1297
00:41:39,712 --> 00:41:41,215
Speaker 1: And I realized you said something

1298
00:41:41,255 --> 00:41:42,398
Speaker 1: interesting when you said like, oh, you

1299
00:41:42,418 --> 00:41:43,921
Speaker 1: know, I always thought musicals were boring.

1300
00:41:44,422 --> 00:41:46,554
Speaker 1: I feel like there's this very um,

1301
00:41:47,436 --> 00:41:49,381
Speaker 1: problematic aspect of like you know, it's

1302
00:41:49,401 --> 00:41:50,892
Speaker 1: kind of like cool to be like butch, like

1303
00:41:50,932 --> 00:41:52,277
Speaker 1: yeah, musicals aren't that cool.

1304
00:41:52,317 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: I'm not that.

1305
00:41:53,241 --> 00:41:55,329
Speaker 1: And I realized, like you know, on this

1306
00:41:55,349 --> 00:41:56,932
Speaker 1: journey I've realized a lot of like the

1307
00:41:56,973 --> 00:41:58,475
Speaker 1: straight character bullshit, you know,

1308
00:41:58,495 --> 00:42:00,539
Speaker 1: speaking of your character stuff and all

1309
00:42:00,579 --> 00:42:02,904
Speaker 1: this stuff of like ways of being that I

1310
00:42:02,944 --> 00:42:04,467
Speaker 1: didn't even know I was doing.

1311
00:42:04,547 --> 00:42:06,972
Speaker 1: Like I've had to really unpack and look at

1312
00:42:07,052 --> 00:42:09,378
Speaker 1: you know, when, like I wouldn't say

1313
00:42:09,438 --> 00:42:11,142
Speaker 1: something was cute or adorable, I would say

1314
00:42:11,163 --> 00:42:12,115
Speaker 1: it was cool, I wouldn't.

1315
00:42:12,135 --> 00:42:14,205
Speaker 1: You know, there's all this stupid shit that

1316
00:42:14,225 --> 00:42:16,172
Speaker 1: you don't really think about and then you

1317
00:42:16,192 --> 00:42:17,635
Speaker 1: start you know I've been watching all these

1318
00:42:17,715 --> 00:42:18,336
Speaker 1: old movies.

1319
00:42:18,437 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: You know, like american pie I'm not that

1320
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,064
Speaker 1: old, but american pie or girl next door,

1321
00:42:22,104 --> 00:42:23,427
Speaker 1: like movies that I watched when I was

1322
00:42:23,447 --> 00:42:26,413
Speaker 1: younger, and you realize how much latent

1323
00:42:26,493 --> 00:42:28,918
Speaker 1: homoeroticism is in all of them.

1324
00:42:29,399 --> 00:42:31,823
Speaker 1: There is so many moments that you're like,

1325
00:42:31,843 --> 00:42:34,336
Speaker 1: oh shit, like there's a lot of unconscious

1326
00:42:34,376 --> 00:42:35,740
Speaker 1: shit these writers are putting out there

1327
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:36,691
Speaker 1: that they don't even know.

1328
00:42:37,051 --> 00:42:38,313
Speaker 1: Like I don't know if you know this and I

1329
00:42:38,373 --> 00:42:39,896
Speaker 1: hope this isn't inappropriate to say here,

1330
00:42:40,256 --> 00:42:43,521
Speaker 1: but in the movie american pie, right stiff,

1331
00:42:43,561 --> 00:42:47,487
Speaker 1: where drinks kevin's come but actually

1332
00:42:47,748 --> 00:42:49,792
Speaker 1: happens and, like you don't, he thinks

1333
00:42:49,912 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: about it as a joke yeah, because he jay-z's

1334
00:42:52,940 --> 00:42:54,492
Speaker 1: in the b-yard and then he comes exactly

1335
00:42:54,532 --> 00:42:57,458
Speaker 1: right like but like that shit is just

1336
00:42:57,599 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: layered.

1337
00:42:57,940 --> 00:42:59,731
Speaker 1: There's so much of that stuff and it's like

1338
00:42:59,932 --> 00:43:01,852
Speaker 1: funny, but I'm like well, like the whole

1339
00:43:01,892 --> 00:43:02,233
Speaker 1: movie.

1340
00:43:02,273 --> 00:43:04,117
Speaker 1: The premise of the movie is not about the

1341
00:43:04,157 --> 00:43:05,601
Speaker 1: guys fucking girls.

1342
00:43:05,941 --> 00:43:07,933
Speaker 1: It's about them losing their virginity

1343
00:43:08,014 --> 00:43:10,499
Speaker 1: together like it's more about them bonding

1344
00:43:10,740 --> 00:43:12,451
Speaker 1: than any connection with any of the women

1345
00:43:13,093 --> 00:43:15,017
Speaker 1: yeah, he also gets uh, pissed on as well,

1346
00:43:15,037 --> 00:43:15,298
Speaker 1: didn't he?

1347
00:43:15,538 --> 00:43:16,401
Speaker 2: from the the balcony?

1348
00:43:16,461 --> 00:43:18,332
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is that the second movie, but

1349
00:43:18,372 --> 00:43:20,496
Speaker 2: yes, he's out get pissed here with Don.

1350
00:43:20,516 --> 00:43:21,818
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, he's got these things.

1351
00:43:21,858 --> 00:43:23,582
Speaker 1: He's champagne, yeah, yeah, yeah, henry

1352
00:43:23,602 --> 00:43:24,163
Speaker 1: with the champagne.

1353
00:43:24,203 --> 00:43:26,556
Speaker 1: It's a great scene, but yeah, it's wild.

1354
00:43:26,610 --> 00:43:27,855
Speaker 1: You start to watch these things and you're

1355
00:43:27,875 --> 00:43:30,070
Speaker 1: like, wow, there's a lot of homoeroticism

1356
00:43:30,151 --> 00:43:32,693
Speaker 1: that's latent and hidden in our culture and

1357
00:43:32,793 --> 00:43:34,650
Speaker 1: we're just not able to talk about it more

1358
00:43:34,710 --> 00:43:35,131
Speaker 1: openly.

1359
00:43:35,993 --> 00:43:38,599
Speaker 2: That's a shame, though I think it's a

1360
00:43:38,659 --> 00:43:41,632
Speaker 2: little bit more acceptable now than when we

1361
00:43:41,652 --> 00:43:43,077
Speaker 2: were kids, sort of thing, for instance.

1362
00:43:43,137 --> 00:43:46,097
Speaker 2: Oh no, not even you can go across and do it,

1363
00:43:46,137 --> 00:43:48,377
Speaker 2: you know, and people are just not batting

1364
00:43:48,437 --> 00:43:50,135
Speaker 2: an eyelid anymore, which is great.

1365
00:43:50,210 --> 00:43:51,654
Speaker 2: It means we're coming along as a society

1366
00:43:51,795 --> 00:43:53,259
Speaker 2: more than anything else, you know, which is

1367
00:43:53,340 --> 00:43:53,621
Speaker 2: great.

1368
00:43:53,770 --> 00:43:55,094
Speaker 2: People feel more comfortable in who they

1369
00:43:55,215 --> 00:43:56,158
Speaker 2: are, etc.

1370
00:43:56,238 --> 00:43:57,472
Speaker 2: Etc, sort of thing.

1371
00:43:57,492 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: But you were talking about films we used to

1372
00:44:00,660 --> 00:44:01,382
Speaker 2: watch when we were kids.

1373
00:44:02,250 --> 00:44:04,536
Speaker 2: I watched Wayne's World the other day there.

1374
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:06,462
Speaker 1: It's on my list.

1375
00:44:06,610 --> 00:44:08,638
Speaker 1: We watched it about a month ago Do you know

1376
00:44:08,678 --> 00:44:10,556
Speaker 1: what I'm disappointed?

1377
00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:12,715
Speaker 2: It doesn't age well at all, does it though?

1378
00:44:12,956 --> 00:44:16,572
Speaker 1: What I'm just like oh, the thing is you've

1379
00:44:16,592 --> 00:44:18,756
Speaker 1: got to watch things in the context of the

1380
00:44:18,776 --> 00:44:20,459
Speaker 1: time, Because what I realized is every

1381
00:44:20,519 --> 00:44:22,443
Speaker 1: movie is just a reflection of the culture

1382
00:44:22,483 --> 00:44:23,144
Speaker 1: at the time, right?

1383
00:44:23,210 --> 00:44:26,071
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's pretty problematic, but I

1384
00:44:26,131 --> 00:44:27,436
Speaker 1: still think Wayne's World has some funny

1385
00:44:27,456 --> 00:44:27,757
Speaker 1: parts.

1386
00:44:28,339 --> 00:44:28,720
Speaker 2: It's good.

1387
00:44:29,091 --> 00:44:30,898
Speaker 2: I used to love that film when I was a kid.

1388
00:44:32,011 --> 00:44:35,740
Speaker 2: We used to basically talk about it, we used

1389
00:44:35,761 --> 00:44:37,453
Speaker 2: to dictate it, we used to act all the

1390
00:44:37,473 --> 00:44:39,579
Speaker 2: scenes out when you were at school or that,

1391
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,154
Speaker 2: all the time and I was like, oh my god, it

1392
00:44:42,174 --> 00:44:42,696
Speaker 2: just came on.

1393
00:44:42,716 --> 00:44:44,545
Speaker 2: My like I think it was netflix or something

1394
00:44:44,565 --> 00:44:44,967
Speaker 2: like came on.

1395
00:44:44,987 --> 00:44:46,152
Speaker 2: I was like I'm gonna watch this.

1396
00:44:46,473 --> 00:44:48,097
Speaker 2: And I think I got halfway through and I was.

1397
00:44:48,237 --> 00:44:50,002
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, this is not as good

1398
00:44:50,431 --> 00:44:51,495
Speaker 2: as it was when I was a kid.

1399
00:44:51,696 --> 00:44:52,740
Speaker 2: I was devastated.

1400
00:44:53,161 --> 00:44:55,129
Speaker 2: I should have got messed up, should have

1401
00:44:55,149 --> 00:44:57,073
Speaker 2: got fucking smoked some weed or something

1402
00:44:57,114 --> 00:44:58,757
Speaker 2: before I actually watched it yes,

1403
00:44:58,777 --> 00:44:59,459
Speaker 2: definitely, yes, definitely I do.

1404
00:44:59,479 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: You have to smoke weed.

1405
00:45:00,461 --> 00:45:01,563
Speaker 1: That's what makes everything better.

1406
00:45:03,586 --> 00:45:05,082
Speaker 1: We were on the train to New York this

1407
00:45:05,122 --> 00:45:06,576
Speaker 1: weekend and it's funny you're saying this.

1408
00:45:06,838 --> 00:45:08,291
Speaker 1: We went through and we made a list because

1409
00:45:08,311 --> 00:45:09,697
Speaker 1: we were bored it's about a four-hour train

1410
00:45:11,204 --> 00:45:12,432
Speaker 1: of all the movies we watched.

1411
00:45:12,452 --> 00:45:15,034
Speaker 1: We've watched probably I don't know 50, 80

1412
00:45:15,074 --> 00:45:18,054
Speaker 1: movies over the last year and we listed,

1413
00:45:18,094 --> 00:45:19,898
Speaker 1: like, what was the biggest disappointment

1414
00:45:19,958 --> 00:45:21,401
Speaker 1: that we loved when we were kid, but we

1415
00:45:21,441 --> 00:45:21,761
Speaker 1: weren't.

1416
00:45:21,821 --> 00:45:24,694
Speaker 1: What was the you know, the biggest surprise?

1417
00:45:24,835 --> 00:45:27,074
Speaker 1: I liked, you know, and also I grew up with

1418
00:45:27,114 --> 00:45:29,551
Speaker 1: two sisters and my dad traveled a lot, so

1419
00:45:29,591 --> 00:45:31,437
Speaker 1: there were a number of movies, like boy

1420
00:45:31,477 --> 00:45:33,573
Speaker 1: movies, that my, it was going to be a no go

1421
00:45:33,614 --> 00:45:34,572
Speaker 1: in my house, like that.

1422
00:45:34,592 --> 00:45:36,118
Speaker 1: My sisters were not going to agree to it,

1423
00:45:36,490 --> 00:45:38,398
Speaker 1: so I just missed out, whereas Garrett grew

1424
00:45:38,438 --> 00:45:40,547
Speaker 1: up with two brothers and so he's introduced

1425
00:45:40,587 --> 00:45:42,332
Speaker 1: me to a whole like um, I don't know if

1426
00:45:42,353 --> 00:45:44,217
Speaker 1: you've seen the Arnold Schwarzenegger movie

1427
00:45:44,277 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: Last Action Hero.

1428
00:45:46,442 --> 00:45:49,375
Speaker 1: Uh, yes, it's like I had never seen that.

1429
00:45:49,575 --> 00:45:52,261
Speaker 1: Excellent, beyond excellent, oh you.

1430
00:45:52,401 --> 00:45:54,191
Speaker 2: If you like that one, you need some.

1431
00:45:54,311 --> 00:45:56,915
Speaker 2: I love my old 80s films, my old 90s,

1432
00:45:56,935 --> 00:45:58,658
Speaker 2: especially Arnie and all that sort of stuff,

1433
00:45:59,159 --> 00:46:02,285
Speaker 2: and I was actually on a podcast with one of

1434
00:46:02,305 --> 00:46:06,196
Speaker 2: my friends, sean, and he does like movie

1435
00:46:06,257 --> 00:46:10,083
Speaker 2: sort of like movie reviews and stuff like

1436
00:46:10,103 --> 00:46:12,082
Speaker 2: that on different films and one of them

1437
00:46:12,506 --> 00:46:14,014
Speaker 2: I've been dying to do and I'm finally

1438
00:46:14,055 --> 00:46:14,597
Speaker 2: getting to do it.

1439
00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:15,333
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen it.

1440
00:46:15,353 --> 00:46:16,418
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen Commando?

1441
00:46:17,471 --> 00:46:18,375
Speaker 2: I've actually never seen it.

1442
00:46:18,395 --> 00:46:19,554
Speaker 2: It's on our list but I have never seen it.

1443
00:46:20,258 --> 00:46:23,092
Speaker 2: Oh, my god, you are gonna love this film

1444
00:46:23,132 --> 00:46:27,061
Speaker 2: because it is full of cheesy one-liners is

1445
00:46:27,241 --> 00:46:29,206
Speaker 2: amazing, absolutely.

1446
00:46:29,467 --> 00:46:31,511
Speaker 2: And the I'm not talking about the usual

1447
00:46:31,572 --> 00:46:34,258
Speaker 2: sort of one or two and the whole film, I'm

1448
00:46:34,298 --> 00:46:36,122
Speaker 2: talking about every five minutes there's

1449
00:46:36,283 --> 00:46:39,195
Speaker 2: one and annie is on top cheesy action hero,

1450
00:46:39,236 --> 00:46:42,522
Speaker 2: for his tales are amazing, so, so good.

1451
00:46:42,983 --> 00:46:44,973
Speaker 2: And there's ah, I could sit there and

1452
00:46:46,295 --> 00:46:48,801
Speaker 2: dictate about seven of them, but I don't

1453
00:46:48,821 --> 00:46:50,003
Speaker 2: want to ruin the film for you.

1454
00:46:50,043 --> 00:46:52,235
Speaker 2: Just honestly sit down and watch that film

1455
00:46:52,456 --> 00:46:54,521
Speaker 2: and then thank me later because it's such a

1456
00:46:54,561 --> 00:46:56,817
Speaker 2: good film and I'm going to review it on my

1457
00:46:56,857 --> 00:46:58,685
Speaker 2: list and I'm going to review it on this

1458
00:46:58,766 --> 00:47:00,493
Speaker 2: podcast next month, I think and it's going

1459
00:47:00,513 --> 00:47:01,993
Speaker 2: to be so much fun because I've been dying

1460
00:47:02,034 --> 00:47:04,014
Speaker 2: to talk about this film and no one I know

1461
00:47:04,054 --> 00:47:05,038
Speaker 2: none of my friends have seen it.

1462
00:47:05,391 --> 00:47:06,636
Speaker 2: They're like oh, that's cheesy as hell.

1463
00:47:07,450 --> 00:47:08,172
Speaker 2: I go exactly.

1464
00:47:08,534 --> 00:47:09,637
Speaker 2: It's the best film ever.

1465
00:47:10,059 --> 00:47:10,460
Speaker 2: Why are you?

1466
00:47:11,256 --> 00:47:12,890
Speaker 2: You've not lived until you've seen Commando.

1467
00:47:13,954 --> 00:47:15,018
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, none of this.

1468
00:47:15,058 --> 00:47:17,778
Speaker 2: Like Citizen Kane and all that sort of

1469
00:47:17,819 --> 00:47:18,099
Speaker 2: stuff.

1470
00:47:19,534 --> 00:47:21,159
Speaker 2: Commando is the one you need to watch.

1471
00:47:21,660 --> 00:47:23,256
Speaker 2: That's what's going to make you into a man

1472
00:47:23,912 --> 00:47:26,111
Speaker 2: seen Arnie go up against a thousand men on

1473
00:47:26,151 --> 00:47:26,593
Speaker 2: his own.

1474
00:47:27,035 --> 00:47:29,930
Speaker 2: Fuck, yes, I'm getting excited just talking

1475
00:47:29,990 --> 00:47:30,372
Speaker 2: about it.

1476
00:47:30,392 --> 00:47:33,638
Speaker 2: Look, fuck's sake, I'm getting out of it.

1477
00:47:36,502 --> 00:47:38,111
Speaker 2: So I mean, you've got the films, you've got

1478
00:47:38,151 --> 00:47:39,913
Speaker 2: that sort of stuff going, so what other

1479
00:47:39,933 --> 00:47:40,696
Speaker 2: films have you been watching?

1480
00:47:43,216 --> 00:47:44,042
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of something.

1481
00:47:44,082 --> 00:47:46,074
Speaker 2: I'm talking about Super Troopers we've done

1482
00:47:46,114 --> 00:47:49,500
Speaker 2: recently that's a hidden gem, that is,

1483
00:47:49,631 --> 00:47:52,558
Speaker 2: that's very under razor yeah, I had.

1484
00:47:52,779 --> 00:47:54,388
Speaker 1: That's not the one I hadn't seen, right, so

1485
00:47:54,408 --> 00:47:55,712
Speaker 1: like I don't know how that one passed me

1486
00:47:55,732 --> 00:47:56,754
Speaker 1: because that would have been a little bit

1487
00:47:56,774 --> 00:47:58,457
Speaker 1: later, but um, never saw that.

1488
00:47:58,658 --> 00:48:00,562
Speaker 1: Um, let me think what else we love.

1489
00:48:01,363 --> 00:48:02,194
Speaker 1: Um, you know what?

1490
00:48:02,415 --> 00:48:02,736
Speaker 1: Fuck it.

1491
00:48:02,756 --> 00:48:03,681
Speaker 1: I've got my list here.

1492
00:48:03,721 --> 00:48:04,686
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull it up because I have a

1493
00:48:04,727 --> 00:48:05,350
Speaker 1: terrible memory.

1494
00:48:05,791 --> 00:48:07,174
Speaker 1: Let me, so we can go through some of these.

1495
00:48:07,755 --> 00:48:10,501
Speaker 1: Um, all right, uh, wedding crashers, of

1496
00:48:10,541 --> 00:48:10,782
Speaker 1: course.

1497
00:48:10,902 --> 00:48:14,635
Speaker 1: Mighty ducks, excellent, um, you know.

1498
00:48:15,056 --> 00:48:16,860
Speaker 1: Uh, tommy boy, it's pretty good.

1499
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,164
Speaker 1: One um here with other this good one.

1500
00:48:19,424 --> 00:48:20,206
Speaker 2: This is going to be funny.

1501
00:48:20,226 --> 00:48:20,947
Speaker 2: Tommy Boy right.

1502
00:48:21,027 --> 00:48:25,112
Speaker 2: My message tone is when Tommy Boy goes oh

1503
00:48:25,212 --> 00:48:28,476
Speaker 2: my god, that is my message whenever I get a

1504
00:48:28,516 --> 00:48:30,281
Speaker 2: message that pops up and I've had that for

1505
00:48:30,301 --> 00:48:33,110
Speaker 2: about 15 years I've had that message.

1506
00:48:33,210 --> 00:48:34,336
Speaker 2: I dare not get rid of it.

1507
00:48:34,491 --> 00:48:35,676
Speaker 2: It's the best film ever.

1508
00:48:36,195 --> 00:48:40,222
Speaker 2: It's so good, it's so good oh, basketball,

1509
00:48:40,242 --> 00:48:41,750
Speaker 2: basketball, basketball.

1510
00:48:42,011 --> 00:48:43,937
Speaker 1: That's a great movie everything actually do,

1511
00:48:44,438 --> 00:48:48,396
Speaker 1: this guy, yeah, yeah, yeah here's one that

1512
00:48:48,611 --> 00:48:50,941
Speaker 1: maybe you haven't seen but I loved like my

1513
00:48:51,123 --> 00:48:51,590
Speaker 1: favorite movie.

1514
00:48:51,650 --> 00:48:52,781
Speaker 1: I saw it in theaters.

1515
00:48:52,922 --> 00:48:55,010
Speaker 1: I remember it was 13 Out Cold.

1516
00:48:55,773 --> 00:48:59,591
Speaker 1: It's like a cheesy animal house, but in a

1517
00:48:59,631 --> 00:49:00,892
Speaker 1: mountain like a ski mountain.

1518
00:49:00,912 --> 00:49:02,513
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, like a cheesy animal house, but

1519
00:49:02,533 --> 00:49:04,314
Speaker 2: in a mountain, like a ski mountain.

1520
00:49:04,415 --> 00:49:05,836
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, I'll have to catch that one out.

1521
00:49:05,856 --> 00:49:07,837
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that must have been back in

1522
00:49:07,998 --> 00:49:11,100
Speaker 2: the early 90s, I think it came out.

1523
00:49:11,681 --> 00:49:13,562
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, right, so that late.

1524
00:49:13,602 --> 00:49:15,023
Speaker 2: Okay, oh, check that one out.

1525
00:49:15,043 --> 00:49:15,664
Speaker 1: I love the late.

1526
00:49:15,684 --> 00:49:17,826
Speaker 1: I love the late Idle Hands.

1527
00:49:18,246 --> 00:49:18,786
Speaker 1: It's a great one.

1528
00:49:18,826 --> 00:49:22,992
Speaker 1: Idle Hands Good film those idle hands.

1529
00:49:23,012 --> 00:49:23,353
Speaker 1: It's a great one.

1530
00:49:23,373 --> 00:49:23,875
Speaker 1: Idle height good fail.

1531
00:49:23,895 --> 00:49:24,577
Speaker 1: Idle hands yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1532
00:49:24,598 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 1: absolutely, yeah.

1533
00:49:24,939 --> 00:49:26,525
Speaker 1: So so we've had a bunch um, yeah, yeah, oh,

1534
00:49:26,545 --> 00:49:27,789
Speaker 1: yeah, I've got I mean this thing, I don't

1535
00:49:27,810 --> 00:49:27,890
Speaker 1: know.

1536
00:49:28,271 --> 00:49:29,737
Speaker 1: I've got a list of probably 100, because

1537
00:49:30,139 --> 00:49:32,468
Speaker 1: now when people hear I'm doing this, like

1538
00:49:32,488 --> 00:49:33,932
Speaker 1: people always like, oh, what about this one,

1539
00:49:33,952 --> 00:49:34,674
Speaker 1: what about this one?

1540
00:49:34,714 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: So they're always adding to my list and

1541
00:49:36,940 --> 00:49:37,562
Speaker 1: what we do.

1542
00:49:37,730 --> 00:49:39,816
Speaker 1: And actually let me just give this to um,

1543
00:49:39,856 --> 00:49:41,481
Speaker 1: the audience, to you, to everybody, because

1544
00:49:41,791 --> 00:49:44,076
Speaker 1: it's the best thing I've ever done to not

1545
00:49:44,156 --> 00:49:45,860
Speaker 1: fight about things every night.

1546
00:49:45,961 --> 00:49:47,572
Speaker 1: When we pick a movie, or we do this for

1547
00:49:47,612 --> 00:49:50,301
Speaker 1: dinner, we just play a simple game I

1548
00:49:50,381 --> 00:49:52,509
Speaker 1: nominate one movie from the list, garrett

1549
00:49:52,549 --> 00:49:53,331
Speaker 1: nominates one movie.

1550
00:49:53,672 --> 00:49:54,674
Speaker 1: I nominate a second movie.

1551
00:49:54,975 --> 00:49:56,138
Speaker 1: He nominates a second movie.

1552
00:49:56,478 --> 00:49:58,283
Speaker 1: I eliminate one, he eliminates one.

1553
00:49:58,511 --> 00:50:00,397
Speaker 1: I pick the winner and we just switch who

1554
00:50:00,417 --> 00:50:01,260
Speaker 1: goes first every night.

1555
00:50:01,991 --> 00:50:03,557
Speaker 1: Or we do that with food, with takeout.

1556
00:50:04,071 --> 00:50:06,177
Speaker 1: It works so well because you're not

1557
00:50:06,217 --> 00:50:07,541
Speaker 1: guaranteed you're going to get your top

1558
00:50:07,561 --> 00:50:09,654
Speaker 1: choice, but you are guaranteed you won't

1559
00:50:09,714 --> 00:50:10,636
Speaker 1: get what you don't want.

1560
00:50:11,899 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 2: That's good.

1561
00:50:12,180 --> 00:50:13,531
Speaker 2: It's a good way of doing it, it's a good

1562
00:50:13,571 --> 00:50:15,535
Speaker 2: way of solving arguments, because that's

1563
00:50:15,876 --> 00:50:18,943
Speaker 2: probably the main reason for arguments.

1564
00:50:21,380 --> 00:50:22,826
Speaker 2: And so, what do we want?

1565
00:50:23,030 --> 00:50:23,772
Speaker 2: What should we watch?

1566
00:50:23,812 --> 00:50:25,797
Speaker 2: I mean, it is right, exactly, I used to

1567
00:50:25,837 --> 00:50:27,642
Speaker 2: spend with one of my ex-girlfriends, was?

1568
00:50:28,492 --> 00:50:29,975
Speaker 2: She's completely fucking insane, she's

1569
00:50:30,015 --> 00:50:30,997
Speaker 2: mental, uh.

1570
00:50:31,017 --> 00:50:33,243
Speaker 2: She used to always never choose any sort of

1571
00:50:33,283 --> 00:50:34,754
Speaker 2: film, and I used to be.

1572
00:50:34,814 --> 00:50:36,118
Speaker 2: I'm always like you know, I'll be a bit

1573
00:50:36,138 --> 00:50:36,479
Speaker 2: chivalrous.

1574
00:50:36,499 --> 00:50:37,490
Speaker 2: Would you want to watch, would you?

1575
00:50:37,530 --> 00:50:38,492
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know.

1576
00:50:38,512 --> 00:50:39,193
Speaker 2: Do you want to watch this?

1577
00:50:39,354 --> 00:50:40,335
Speaker 2: Do you want to watch commando?

1578
00:50:40,997 --> 00:50:42,179
Speaker 2: No, no, I don't want to watch that

1579
00:50:42,339 --> 00:50:43,020
Speaker 2: motherfucker.

1580
00:50:43,601 --> 00:50:44,062
Speaker 2: Why not?

1581
00:50:44,543 --> 00:50:47,116
Speaker 1: but yeah, but and here's the thing, like

1582
00:50:47,297 --> 00:50:50,088
Speaker 1: you, so we always alternate, and if someone

1583
00:50:50,128 --> 00:50:51,332
Speaker 1: picks dinner, the other person picks the

1584
00:50:51,352 --> 00:50:51,633
Speaker 1: movie.

1585
00:50:51,693 --> 00:50:54,219
Speaker 1: But we, um, we've got this long list, and

1586
00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:56,393
Speaker 1: then what's really great is you start like

1587
00:50:57,115 --> 00:50:59,101
Speaker 1: showing yourself to the other person, like

1588
00:50:59,121 --> 00:50:59,341
Speaker 1: you know.

1589
00:50:59,743 --> 00:51:00,946
Speaker 1: So say, you, say commando.

1590
00:51:01,467 --> 00:51:03,576
Speaker 1: If I wrap commando like eight times, it

1591
00:51:03,616 --> 00:51:05,245
Speaker 1: keeps getting shut down, eventually

1592
00:51:05,285 --> 00:51:06,511
Speaker 1: garrett's gonna be like all right, I'm

1593
00:51:06,531 --> 00:51:08,135
Speaker 1: gonna give you commando because he knows

1594
00:51:08,175 --> 00:51:09,699
Speaker 1: that it's important to me and so it's a

1595
00:51:09,780 --> 00:51:11,333
Speaker 1: really cool way of you know.

1596
00:51:11,494 --> 00:51:13,242
Speaker 1: Otherwise, if I kept saying him let's watch

1597
00:51:13,282 --> 00:51:15,030
Speaker 1: commando, let's watch commando, he'd never

1598
00:51:15,090 --> 00:51:15,451
Speaker 1: watch it.

1599
00:51:15,731 --> 00:51:17,735
Speaker 1: But if I'm nominating it all the time, he's

1600
00:51:17,755 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: like okay, I've, I've canceled it out

1601
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,984
Speaker 1: enough, like I have to give this one to you,

1602
00:51:22,370 --> 00:51:24,277
Speaker 1: and so it's actually for me it's been

1603
00:51:24,297 --> 00:51:25,835
Speaker 1: really great because there are a lot of

1604
00:51:25,855 --> 00:51:26,136
Speaker 1: movies.

1605
00:51:26,176 --> 00:51:27,435
Speaker 1: I was like I don't think I would like that

1606
00:51:27,790 --> 00:51:29,112
Speaker 1: and we ended up watching it and it's

1607
00:51:29,412 --> 00:51:29,912
Speaker 1: phenomenal.

1608
00:51:30,633 --> 00:51:31,414
Speaker 2: Oh, nice one.

1609
00:51:31,695 --> 00:51:32,135
Speaker 2: That's good.

1610
00:51:32,275 --> 00:51:32,636
Speaker 2: Good way to do it.

1611
00:51:32,656 --> 00:51:33,236
Speaker 2: I'm going to keep that.

1612
00:51:33,256 --> 00:51:35,199
Speaker 2: I'm going to be a population dumpsville,

1613
00:51:35,219 --> 00:51:36,861
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

1614
00:51:42,512 --> 00:51:44,198
Speaker 1: I think that should be your relationship

1615
00:51:44,218 --> 00:51:44,619
Speaker 1: past.

1616
00:51:45,030 --> 00:51:46,155
Speaker 1: Do you watch Commando?

1617
00:51:46,195 --> 00:51:47,059
Speaker 1: Do you like Commando?

1618
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,288
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you, say they'll probably come

1619
00:51:49,309 --> 00:51:49,650
Speaker 2: running and go.

1620
00:51:49,891 --> 00:51:50,936
Speaker 2: What Commando are you talking about?

1621
00:51:51,010 --> 00:51:52,215
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm talking about the film.

1622
00:51:53,250 --> 00:51:54,996
Speaker 2: Get your mind out of the gutter, you filthy

1623
00:51:55,016 --> 00:51:55,237
Speaker 2: bitch.

1624
00:51:55,417 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the film.

1625
00:51:59,750 --> 00:52:00,735
Speaker 1: Film, we can talk about that later, when

1626
00:52:00,755 --> 00:52:01,237
Speaker 1: the film's finished.

1627
00:52:01,257 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: Let's watch the film first.

1628
00:52:01,819 --> 00:52:02,824
Speaker 1: There you go, you're bringing a little bit

1629
00:52:02,864 --> 00:52:03,688
Speaker 1: of paint, you're getting them a little

1630
00:52:03,728 --> 00:52:04,833
Speaker 1: sexual innuendo, then you're watching your

1631
00:52:04,853 --> 00:52:05,114
Speaker 1: movie.

1632
00:52:05,134 --> 00:52:06,983
Speaker 1: I think it's all perfect it's all good.

1633
00:52:07,103 --> 00:52:09,193
Speaker 2: See netflix and chill with me is gonna be a

1634
00:52:09,233 --> 00:52:11,003
Speaker 2: fucking great experience watching commando

1635
00:52:11,063 --> 00:52:12,951
Speaker 2: and then fucking doing whatever after.

1636
00:52:13,011 --> 00:52:15,375
Speaker 2: It's all good fun.

1637
00:52:15,395 --> 00:52:16,196
Speaker 2: It's all good fun.

1638
00:52:16,236 --> 00:52:18,540
Speaker 2: But so we've been chatting for a bit, mate.

1639
00:52:18,580 --> 00:52:20,624
Speaker 2: I don't want to keep you too long, but it's

1640
00:52:20,824 --> 00:52:21,771
Speaker 2: uh gonna wrap it up.

1641
00:52:22,072 --> 00:52:23,816
Speaker 2: It's been an absolute pleasure getting you

1642
00:52:23,836 --> 00:52:25,661
Speaker 2: back on me and I'm so glad you're doing

1643
00:52:25,681 --> 00:52:28,275
Speaker 2: great and I'm so happy and pleased for you

1644
00:52:28,355 --> 00:52:31,843
Speaker 2: that everything is going well for yourself

1645
00:52:31,903 --> 00:52:33,376
Speaker 2: and you're going through an amazing journey

1646
00:52:33,416 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 2: and it's opened your eyes up.

1647
00:52:34,661 --> 00:52:37,030
Speaker 2: And the musical is an even greater

1648
00:52:37,050 --> 00:52:37,811
Speaker 2: achievement as well.

1649
00:52:37,851 --> 00:52:39,753
Speaker 2: So it's great to great to hear you're doing

1650
00:52:39,813 --> 00:52:40,214
Speaker 2: awesome, mate.

1651
00:52:41,175 --> 00:52:41,956
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you.

1652
00:52:41,996 --> 00:52:43,157
Speaker 1: It's been really fun to be back.

1653
00:52:43,177 --> 00:52:44,098
Speaker 1: I didn't know what we were going to talk

1654
00:52:44,118 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: about, but I'm glad I went to Commando.

1655
00:52:46,761 --> 00:52:47,401
Speaker 2: It did.

1656
00:52:47,441 --> 00:52:49,083
Speaker 2: The final thought, you know, final thought

1657
00:52:49,103 --> 00:52:50,925
Speaker 2: is all about Commando Guys, watch Commando.

1658
00:52:51,165 --> 00:52:54,716
Speaker 2: If you don't like it, just you suck.

1659
00:52:55,471 --> 00:52:56,233
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying.

1660
00:52:56,975 --> 00:52:59,721
Speaker 2: Well, bro, mike, it's been a pleasure

1661
00:52:59,922 --> 00:53:02,548
Speaker 2: always catch up with you guys and, uh, also,

1662
00:53:02,588 --> 00:53:04,092
Speaker 2: if you listen, please like, share it with

1663
00:53:04,112 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 2: your friends and do all that sort of stuff

1664
00:53:05,859 --> 00:53:07,972
Speaker 2: that you do, and we'll catch up with you on

1665
00:53:07,993 --> 00:53:08,455
Speaker 2: the next one.

1666
00:53:08,817 --> 00:53:09,119
Speaker 2: Peace.